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    Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
    "Enterprise applications" exhibit abysmal usability, because the bosses who decide they should be used don't have to use them themselves, and the lackeys who have to use them don't get any choice in the matter.
    I was at a conference last year when they were saying how much time, money and research had gone into the next generation of Oracle apps for usability.

    They were so proud of how much more they had spent this time round compared to previous versions.

    It was a brave soul that piped up "that's because the last version had about 15 quid spent on usability"...
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      Originally posted by covbob View Post
      Are agents really that stupid or are there contractors (permitractors?) who are daft enough to get out of bed for those rates?
      It's so the client can say "we advertised it but there's no one in the country that can do it, so we'll have to bring someone in from overseas instead".
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        Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
        I was at a conference last year when they were saying how much time, money and research had gone into the next generation of Oracle apps for usability.

        They were so proud of how much more they had spent this time round compared to previous versions.

        It was a brave soul that piped up "that's because the last version had about 15 quid spent on usability"...
        Neither was SAP. It was a complete feckin nightmare from a usability POV.

        The SAPUI5 (HTML5) based Fiori frontend investment seems to be working right for them on both Netweaver based or HANA based platforms.

        That is definitely money well spent.

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          Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
          It's so the client can say "we advertised it but there's no one in the country that can do it, so we'll have to bring someone in from overseas instead".
          ^ This

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              Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
              Neither was SAP. It was a complete feckin nightmare from a usability POV.

              The SAPUI5 (HTML5) based Fiori frontend investment seems to be working right for them on both Netweaver based or HANA based platforms.

              That is definitely money well spent.
              They do seem to be getting it a bit more now - I've not seen SAP but Peoplesoft 9.2 and Oracle Fusion do at least have some degree of usability, if it's implemented correctly.

              But having seen my client go from Oracle to Peoplesoft because they didn't like the Oracle screens, I can only imagine that the problem was that they didn't like their own corporate colour scheme because they look the bloody same and are a pig to use.
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                Originally posted by TheFaQQer View Post
                They do seem to be getting it a bit more now - I've not seen SAP but Peoplesoft 9.2 and Oracle Fusion do at least have some degree of usability, if it's implemented correctly.

                But having seen my client go from Oracle to Peoplesoft because they didn't like the Oracle screens, I can only imagine that the problem was that they didn't like their own corporate colour scheme because they look the bloody same and are a pig to use.
                Isn't Peoplesoft a HR thing Oracle purchased a few years ago? I was under the impression that Oracle had b@sterdised Peoplesoft well enough to make it look like one of their own !

                As for SAP, it has always been a twat of a frontend with a very powerful and capable backend. They tried fingering SAP frontend using JAVA in the past until Oracle purchased it. SAP then tinkered around with WebDynpro using ABAP for sometime till they realised that it is too specialised a product and not really userfriendly both for users and developers.
                The more recent b@sterdisation of HTML5 as SAPUI5 is clicking quite well through Rapid Deployment. Wonder what's going on in ze German brains

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                    Originally posted by norrahe View Post
                    My pussy has hiccups.
                    Frighten it

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                      Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View Post
                      I'd rather not he's got very sharp claws.

                      It's stopped now.
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