Women and Pies

[FredHead]

rebeccaloos

Do you get out clubbing much? Of course there are fat men. Nobody disputes that, but it's obvious for all to see that with women it has become an epidemic. I have watched womens' @rses grow by a factor of three in as many months. It's a truly miraculous sight to behold.

Just out of interest; what's your favourite pie? No offense intended.

IsItOver

Your story is similar to mine in some ways. I was married for 15 years to a woman who decided the grass was greener. We were very happy and had a lifestyle the envy of her fat friends. They encouraged her over a long period of time that she could do better. She is now clinically depressed, fat and poor. She begged to come back but of course the damage was done. I can honestly say I had never seen such selfishness in a person. She really thought she could have it all, like so many misguided women. Now we are another divorce statistic thanks to jealous, spiteful women and womens magazines that tell women they are victims.

Are there any happy mid thirties women out there?

A sad tale of pies and false expectations.

[IsItOver]

Sorry to hear your story FredHead.

I was reading that book 'The Proper Care And Feeding Of Husbands' and in it the FEMALE shrink talks for 20 minutes about how dangerous, jealous and nasty women can become of a female 'friend' whom they perceive to be in a happy relationship... and then how they set out to destroy their 'friend's' happiness by destroying the relationship or marriage.

It is odd - women know this, women are aware of it and see it happening to others but seem to be oblivious when it is happening to them. The shrink says it has alot to do with a woman's constant need for approval.... so if the nasty friends say supportive albeit destructive things then that is what wins through... cunning in a way that men simply are not.

Are there any happy mid thirties women out there?

I think if you go to datingdirect.com or match.com. or udate.com or faceparty.com or theh undreds of other dating sites that have big UK presences you will get an answer to your question. There seems to be thousands of women in their 30s and 40s, divorced often with X children, who look absolutely miserable in their photos... and enormous also....

[rebeccaloos]

Freddie,

I go clubbing lots, but the clubs/events I go to, everyone seems to fit and slim... maybe drugs help anyway no I haven't noticed an increase in women's fatness. Don't go to mainstream clubs, choose instead clubs with discerning dance music, and you will be surrounded by slim, fit people if that's what you want. And everyone will be happy too.

I do not eat pies, and certainly not pork, mince, or any related pies.

And while I do sympathise with you and IsITOver re your stories, I'd say it happens to many people, do not think for a second that women also don't despair seeing what men become sometimes after a few years of marriage: how many men have we seen balloon once "they're not on the pull any more"

[rebeccaloos]

I think if you go to datingdirect.com or match.com. or udate.com or faceparty.com or theh undreds of other dating sites that have big UK presences you will get an answer to your question. There seems to be thousands of women in their 30s and 40s, divorced often with X children, who look absolutely miserable in their photos... and enormous also....

Of course, do you think they'd need to be on the list if they were slim and good-looking?

[IsItOver]

Is that what you or women generally think - that only unattractive women need to use dating sites? Just curious.

[rebeccaloos]

maybe it's just me - well thinking about it, no, I have a few friends who agree. I would never use a dating site, I can't see how someone else (i.e. the agency) can filter out the men for me, and I certainly do not think that you'd meet better men with these services than in real life.

So I'm thinking that if you as a woman are using this site, it is because the men you meet in real life are not attracted to you

[IsItOver]

Ah, right - I think if you look on some of the sights mentioned that there are indeed some stunners on there... However, looks alone do not make the person.

[rebeccaloos]

Of course, I can't comment for every woman, but:

- maybe the photo is lying
- they are not "real" women but photos placed here by the agency to attract men (they will offer you alternatives once you've logged on but they've hooked you in)
- there can be the odd case of a gorgeous looking woman who wants to widen her circle of encounters because of particular circumstances, e.g. she lives in a small community, or she does not want to go out with someone local, or other reasons....

[FredHead]

I know exactly where you're coming from IsItOver. Many of my still married male friends are unhappy with the constant whining and selfishness. A top female lawyer recently commented that it is the women causing all the divorces and they are behaving so badly that their men are happy to get shot of them.

I find it all very sad. There is definetely something seriously awry in Western Society. My own experience points me to believe it is largely women behaving badly whereas men are just exasperated with it all. Women expect, no demand, to have their needs met but refuse to make any effort to meet their partners needs as they have been brainwashed into thinking this makes them a doormat. They are happy to fall back on their traditional role when the need suits and then demand to be treated as a man when that suits. Cake and eat it. There's a huge amount of stuff about this on the web. Men are getting seriously fed up.

Talking about dating sites. Yup, a lot of them are very fat and also a bit loony as well. The good looking, sane ones get inundated. You've only got to look at some of their profiles though to be put off. 'I want a man who can cook for me as I don't cook' So what exactly are you going to do for me then while I'm cooking for you? Don't suppose you will want to do all the traditional male chores. It's just 'I want, I want...' Very depressing.

Naturally there are still decent women out there, I don't tar all women with the same brush.

Glad to hear there are still attractive, happy women out there Rebecca.

[FredHead]

I've read extracts from some of the book you mentioned. What is all seemed to boil down to was treat your husband fairly, respect him, do nice things for him, ie exactly what you demand for yourself. I think the fact that so many women found it offensive shows the degree to which society has brainwashed them.

My ex-wife also had a best friend thoughout our fifteen years together who constantly sniped at me. She was in a very unhappy marriage and spent all her time sniping at me because she was so jealous. My ex and I used to laugh about it together because it was so transparent. Makes you wonder how much goes in though.