Originally posted by JohntheBike
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Originally posted by Skint View PostI'm not disputing what you say, but how does that work? The contractor pays the insurer £1,400 and the insurer gets the contractor to answer questions about their working practices and reviews the contractor's contract and agrees they are outside IR35, and signs them up. Then the contractor is subject to an enquiry and the insurer says, "oh, no, sorry, we don't think we'll win so we won't fight your case" Wouldn't that be some kind of breach of contract?
Even though I have had my contract reviewed by them (and passed as outside), not once was it contingent on that or the WP of said engagement(s). But for every client i have had, I have always had a contract review by them, whilst the insurance was running.Comment
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Originally posted by CompoundOverload View Post... You respond to 4 questions related to the "stated principles" or something similar ....Comment
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Originally posted by Skint View PostI answered a 47-question questionnaireComment
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Originally posted by CompoundOverload View PostActually, they don't even insure you on based on that. You respond to 4 questions related to the "stated principles" or something similar (I think one relates to RoS). Based on your response to those statements they determine if they will insure you or not.
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Originally posted by Skint View PostI'm not disputing what you say, but how does that work? The contractor pays the insurer £1,400 and the insurer gets the contractor to answer questions about their working practices and reviews the contractor's contract and agrees they are outside IR35, and signs them up. Then the contractor is subject to an enquiry and the insurer says, "oh, no, sorry, we don't think we'll win so we won't fight your case" Wouldn't that be some kind of breach of contract?
It's good marketing for the insurer to win a case.
If the insurer thinks the case is unlikely to win it must be because of the information supplied by the contractor was incorrect and they think that HMRC have a reasonable case.Comment
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Originally posted by PTP View PostWas that your ET or another?
I’ve always thought that I’d like to be able to use that as an argument but never seen it in IR35 articles I’ve read. I’d only get around 35k in perm vs 500-550 contract.
Just a thought
If it was a strong factor, then maybe doing the same job at same company on the far lower permie pay scale wouldn’t be such a bad move? [I still wouldn’t recommend it btw!! - this can’t be the case otherwise Id have seen it mentioned before]Was that your ET or another?Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostFrom you?
9 years (or whatever it is) at the same client is going to put a completely different spin on the situation.
You've stated categorically that you are untouchable a thousand times. We know because you trot the same 17 year old reason for it.
When was the last time you engaged with an agency bearing in mind the time you've been in your gig? I think you will find the law has changed a number of times since then.
And when does providing NI and passports have anything to do with IR35?
No one has ever denied that have they? It's in the guidance on how to prove you can work in the UK?When was the last time you engaged with an agency bearing in mind the time you've been in your gig?
You've stated categorically that you are untouchable a thousand times.
And when does providing NI and passports have anything to do with IR35?Comment
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Originally posted by Skint View PostI'm not disputing what you say, but how does that work? The contractor pays the insurer £1,400 and the insurer gets the contractor to answer questions about their working practices and reviews the contractor's contract and agrees they are outside IR35, and signs them up. Then the contractor is subject to an enquiry and the insurer says, "oh, no, sorry, we don't think we'll win so we won't fight your case" Wouldn't that be some kind of breach of contract?
but as they say, caveat emptor.Comment
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Originally posted by JohntheBike View PostNovember 2018
I'm really surprised that you don't understand the significance of that. Only your employer needs your NI number. You are not obliged to provide it to any other private organisation. By not doing so, it re-inforces my independent position.
The Intermediaries Reporting Requirements require agencies to collect and report information on contractors they engage outside of IR35. This includes NI numbers.
Employment intermediaries reporting requirements - GOV.UK
What this means for a worker - GOV.UK
Employment intermediaries report template (CSV) - GOV.UK"Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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