Consultation on IR35 reforms in the private sector

[jamesbrown]

The promised consultation is due out today, 5 March. You'll be able to find it here when it arrives:

Publications - GOV.UK

[BlueSharp]

The promised consultation is due out today, 5 March. You'll be able to find it here when it arrives:

Publications - GOV.UK

Just skim read it. Pretty much as expected with the only notable change that liability passes down the chain to the agencies and will stop at the point in the chain where a party has not provided the relevant info to the next link in the chain.

[ShandyDrinker]

Having also just read it and the statements about not blanket assessing, I cannot see any other approach that clients in the private sector will take.

I think that HMRC are overestimating the competence of HR departments when they say they believe they'll be able to handle it and making judgements. Hell, many of them can't even handle sorting out contracts properly so I struggle to see how they'll handle the nuances of IR35 determination.

[BoredBloke]

Having also just read it and the statements about not blanket assessing, I cannot see any other approach that clients in the private sector will take.

I think that HMRC are overestimating the competence of HR departments when they say they believe they'll be able to handle it and making judgements. Hell, many of them can't even handle sorting out contracts properly so I struggle to see how they'll handle the nuances of IR35 determination.

If it is ok to assess 1 contractor and blanket over the others, does that mean that 1 contractor proving they are outside IR35 means the same is true for the others. I expect it's not!

[eazy]

IR35 : New Off-Payroll private sector consultation launched

https://assets.publishing.service.go...April_2020.pdf

[ShandyDrinker]

If it is ok to assess 1 contractor and blanket over the others, does that mean that 1 contractor proving they are outside IR35 means the same is true for the others. I expect it's not!

If only! I doubt not too...

What is genuinely surprising is the lack of traffic on this forum about the private sector off payroll implementation.

[BlueSharp]

If only! I doubt not too...

What is genuinely surprising is the lack of traffic on this forum about the private sector off payroll implementation.

I popped over to IPSE to see what is happening and what the forums say. Not a lot more than here. Will they fight this like the arctic case or roll over?

[jamesbrown]

I don't see anything particularly surprising or interesting in the consultation, other than clarification of liability passing down the chain as responsibilities are addressed and, perhaps, the client providing the status decision directly to the contractor. The mooted process to challenge status decisions sounds pointless (administered by the client). The stuff about pensions is pretty laughable too. Otherwise, more-or-less as expected, I think.

[jamesbrown]

I popped over to IPSE to see what is happening and what the forums say. Not a lot more than here. Will they fight this like the arctic case or roll over?

IR35 consultation: everything you need to know | IPSE

IPSE: ‘Myopic’ IR35 extension will ‘hamstring’ UK businesses

[jamesbrown]

More analysis here too:

IR35 experts size up off-payroll working consultation