The Decision Tool :)

[bobspud]

The source code may well be open source (as announced a while ago), but the decision spreadsheets that they have made available are unlikely to be the final ones I would bet.

they have no way to keep it secret. After all its going to be the subject of a tax tribunal case soon and if that doesn't get you to it then FOI will be more than capable.

[Pherlopolus]

Seems Outside would also seem to be the case if you have to travel to other sites (assuming you are working at a fixed sites) but had to pay for your own travel/hotel costs.

[fxc]

Seems Outside would also seem to be the case if you have to travel to other sites (assuming you are working at a fixed sites) but had to pay for your own travel/hotel costs.

also looks like if you have a clause in your contract that says you have to put right any work the client is not happy with in your own time and without additional pay, that also results in an outside verdict?

[northernladuk]

Both will help but I doubt on their own they will.

[fxc]

also looks like if you have a clause in your contract that says you have to put right any work the client is not happy with in your own time and without additional pay, that also results in an outside verdict?

if this was a "fix" would people be happy to take the risk and sign up to this?

[Pherlopolus]

Without seeing the final logic table, it appears the the travel costs would be an "Outside" rather than "Continue", of course it depends if you get a definite "Inside" flag in an earlier section.

Not that I have any plans to head to the public sector just yet, except if the rate is good and location is close to home.

[northernladuk]

if this was a "fix" would people be happy to take the risk and sign up to this?

You should already have this in your contract. It's a good pointer to outside whether you are in the PS or not. If you don't understand that I'd suggest people have been playing tickbox IR35 (badly).

If you are 'signing up' to things like this just pass the test then you are already inside IR35 and you should be very worried about retrospective action.

[difficulttimes]

Unable to decide??

So if you get this would the end client take the default position that you are 'inside'?

[fxc]

You should already have this in your contract. It's a good pointer to outside whether you are in the PS or not. If you don't understand that I'd suggest people have been playing tickbox IR35 (badly).

If you are 'signing up' to things like this just pass the test then you are already inside IR35 and you should be very worried about retrospective action.

in my experience there is usually a clause along these lines, however it tends to be "soft" and in practice the client and contractor have tended to come to agreement. The work is usually not done in own time, for example, and is often still paid for to some degree.

Im saying if it were "hard" would be people be down with that?

[northernladuk]

So if you get this would the end client take the default position that you are 'inside'?

We don't really know but one clause isn't going to really call it.