Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[cojak]

I'm contemplating running a book on the most popular questions. My current favourites are

"Is this legal?"

"Can I sue the agency for false representation?"

And of course

"How can I get around this?"

I will be returning to pointing and laughing at the idiots who choose the dodgy umbrellas offering 85%+ returns...

[eek]

I'm contemplating running a book on the most popular questions. My current favourites are

"Is this legal?"

"Can I sue the agency for false representation?"

And of course

"How can I get around this?"

I will be returning to pointing and laughing at the idiots who choose the dodgy umbrellas offering 85%+ returns...

The latter one is my greatest concern. How do you ensure people join proper umbrellas when most people can't tell what's right from what's wrong and the wrong uns offer a far better return.

[cojak]

Education, but there are many out there who don't bother seeing beyond the £££ signs.

[bobspud]

The latter one is my greatest concern. How do you ensure people join proper umbrellas when most people can't tell what's right from what's wrong and the wrong uns offer a far better return.

Define the term Proper. I worked with a chap years ago that was using Parasol and he swore everything was fine because they had an HMRC exception that meant they did not need to have receipts for the expenses that they paid to him.

[eek]

Define the term Proper. I worked with a chap years ago that was using Parasol and he swore everything was fine because they had an HMRC exception that meant they did not need to have receipts for the expenses that they paid to him.

The ones listed on Ask an Umbrella Company - All Umbrella Companies Are Equal excluding the ineligible pnes.

Granted it's not the greatest list but it's the best I've seen

[eek]

Education, but there are many out there who don't bother seeing beyond the £££ signs.

I think we'll need to begin with the smaller agencies. It's worth noting that Andy didn't argue with my point that the umbrellas offering the biggest cash backs were the ones his agency recommends and uses.

S3 have an advantage in that they know what to look for smaller agencies won't.

[LondonManc]

I think we'll need to begin with the smaller agencies. It's worth noting that Andy didn't argue with my point that the umbrellas offering the biggest cash backs were the ones his agency recommends and uses.

S3 have an advantage in that they know what to look for smaller agencies won't.

In respect to what?

[eek]

In respect to what?

Seeing past the £££s and confirming that company claiming to be an umbrella actual act as an umbrella should.

[LondonManc]

Seeing past the £££s and confirming that company claiming to be an umbrella actual act as an umbrella should.

The capability? Quite probably. The inclination? Depends on their business model. :

[Andy Hallett]

I think we'll need to begin with the smaller agencies. It's worth noting that Andy didn't argue with my point that the umbrellas offering the biggest cash backs were the ones his agency recommends and uses.

S3 have an advantage in that they know what to look for smaller agencies won't.

Apologies for not answering your question directly. We choose umbrella companies on the basis of 1=compliance, 2=service and 3=commercial attractiveness in that order.

We check compliance by looking for some form of accreditation. FCSA and Professional Passport for example. We'll then review their accounts, processes and contracts.

Service we evidence via internal and external questionnaires and reading up on here

Commercial Attractiveness looks at payment terms and rebates.

I've turned down deals double what we currently have in place because criteria 1&2 were not satisfied. The commercial aspect is buttons compared to an investigation, tax liability or reputation hit.