HMRC enquiries for EBT schemes through SANZAR

[Sting]

Done!

I have a few thoughts about strategy going forward how do I get access to PM to air these thoughts

[drjenner]

Hi, new user, can I get access to Sanzar content, not quite sure how this works! I was a Sanzar user 2008 - 2010, now Garraway.

[Willy Wicket]

Another Newbie to the site

Hello everyone.
Obviously, you can call me Willy.
I was using Sanzar for some time over a three year tax period.
I've had HMRC settlement demands for 2007-2008, 2008-2009 and 2009-2010.
They total to a lot of money, and in fact probably more likely reflect my actual earnings rather than the tax they think I should be paying.
Obviously they have just snatched a figure out of the air?
I have registered with Cobham Murphy and Contractors Helpdesk.
The 2007-2008 I've settled as I was advised that it was a retrospective, and I didn't have an option.
I have the other 2 years out on appeal. But these are the big ones
Yes, I have also just received the letter from Contractors Helpdesk, which seems a complete turnabout from the previous letter regarding the success of Rangers, so it was a bit baffling.
I would like to say more on the matter, but don't want to, on an open forum, so would like to be granted access to the Sanzar forum if that is OK. I'm not sure how to go about that?
But in any event, the latest communication from Contractors Helpdesk, seems more like a letter from HMRC. It even uses the same colour Purple on the highlights! I was beginning to wonder if the CH was in fact a furtive website ran by the HMRC, pretending to be a contractor friendly advice service, but ultimately advising people to pay up?
Anyway, I have just registered an interest to the SO, but not sure whether to proceed or not.
What is the general consensus?

[junio]

Admin please grant me access to PM.
Another user advised "send a PM to Old Kent Road.", what does this mean ?
thanks

[administrator]

Admin please grant me access to PM.
Another user advised "send a PM to Old Kent Road.", what does this mean ?
thanks

You already have access to the PM (Private Messaging) system. Here is Old Kent Road's profile, on the left hand side there is a link "Send Message" - click that to send him a message:
View Profile: Old Kent Road - Contractor UK Bulletin Board

[MrO666]

What a load of rubbish from both CM and CH !!!

So apparently CM were given a chunk of money a while ago to get the ball rolling with HMRC.....looks to me like they're done sweet FA and just pocketed the money.

CH are offering absolutely NOTHING that every tax payer cannot to on their own with a couple of phone calls to HMRC. Don't waste your time or money bothering with either CM or CH, you're being taken for a mug in my book.

As for the threat of NI being applied........for the 10th time this isn't legally possible (at the moment anyway). NI debts are the responsibility of the employer and CANNOT be transferred to an employee unless the employee is/was a director of the company (which nobody was). I'm not saying that HMRC won't in the future look for ways to try and include NI on these so called debts (for people who haven't already settled), but as it stands today they cannot and will not try it. If they did, I've been reliably informed that it would be fairly straight forward to dispute, as you could easily argue that HMRC were fully aware that NI was due when they issued original DA's, and the fact that they never mentioned it then would be a serious challenge to their attempts to claim it.

Whilst I agree that people will have to pay up, the scaremongering which CH now seem to be touting is shameful to say the least. From what I can gather they've done absolutely nothing and are now trying to act like a hero and offering people some pre-pack.......really ????

Somebody else mentioned about them trying to negotiate a reduced settlement rate for groups.........forget that idea, HMRC cannot and will not be seen negotiating reduced liabilities with anyone i'm afraid. Years ago that may well have been an option, but these days if HMRC deem you owe them £100, then that's what you pay them, you can't argue it down to £50. They need to be able to prove to the public that they are getting value for money. Nice idea, but it won't happen so forget that one.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

What a load of rubbish from both CM and CH !!!

So apparently CM were given a chunk of money a while ago to get the ball rolling with HMRC.....looks to me like they're done sweet FA and just pocketed the money.

CH are offering absolutely NOTHING that every tax payer cannot to on their own with a couple of phone calls to HMRC. Don't waste your time or money bothering with either CM or CH, you're being taken for a mug in my book.

As for the threat of NI being applied........for the 10th time this isn't legally possible (at the moment anyway). NI debts are the responsibility of the employer and CANNOT be transferred to an employee unless the employee is/was a director of the company (which nobody was). I'm not saying that HMRC won't in the future look for ways to try and include NI on these so called debts (for people who haven't already settled), but as it stands today they cannot and will not try it. If they did, I've been reliably informed that it would be fairly straight forward to dispute, as you could easily argue that HMRC were fully aware that NI was due when they issued original DA's, and the fact that they never mentioned it then would be a serious challenge to their attempts to claim it.

Whilst I agree that people will have to pay up, the scaremongering which CH now seem to be touting is shameful to say the least. From what I can gather they've done absolutely nothing and are now trying to act like a hero and offering people some pre-pack.......really ????

Somebody else mentioned about them trying to negotiate a reduced settlement rate for groups.........forget that idea, HMRC cannot and will not be seen negotiating reduced liabilities with anyone i'm afraid. Years ago that may well have been an option, but these days if HMRC deem you owe them £100, then that's what you pay them, you can't argue it down to £50. They need to be able to prove to the public that they are getting value for money. Nice idea, but it won't happen so forget that one.

Well said Mr0666.

There are a lot of shysters about, and that includes many of the scheme promoters.

It's best to form your own group, raise a fighting fund, and pay for independent advice.

[TheDandy]

'Pre-pack' sounds like a Marketing Man's wet dream.

[drjenner]

Hi can I have PM rights please.

[DotasScandal]

With friends like Contractor Helpdesk (and their awesome relationship with HMRC) who needs enemies anymore...