HMRC enquiries for Talent Resource Management (TRM) / Cherrylon / Trentburg Schemes

[picasso]

interest on 08/09 assessment

the interest added is 9.28%, how can that be?

[convict]

So with a DOTAS number, presumably there is strong reasoning that Discovery assessments are invalid / unlawful, since HMRC were aware of the scheme?

Never mind that fact that people would have put TRM down as their employer, and HMRC were already pulling people on the same scheme way back then. It's fairly certain to say that all they had to do was do search on employer=TRM (or whatever unique employer code they have for TRM) and then they would have known at least some tax was missing.

[convict]

the interest added is 9.28%, how can that be?

3% per year. If you log into your SA online account https://online.hmrc.gov.uk/home, then look under:
Your HMRC Services/Self Assessment (SA)/View Account/Interest/Accruing... you'll see the breakdown.

[Michael J Perry FCA]

Do not pay!

I received the notice of assessment giving me till 30 march to pay. Today received self assessment statement with interest added.

One option to put on the appeal, from tax talk, was to add the line, 'I am paying the tax demanded in order to stop further interest accruing. This does not constitute my agreement that the income is taxable.'

Does anyone think this a good idea, to pay the full amount on the assessment now, to stop the interest, or should we just be sending of the appeal?

Apart from waiting to here when Michael's seminar is going to be and attending, does anyone know of any tax adviser specifically dealing with ex-TRM who I should be talking too. I have not sought professional advice up to now. From these threads, it seams some of us are getting mixed advice from tax consultants, some just saying pay up. I would prefer to be in contact with someone fighting our case. Can anyone advise

As advised before, do not pay as this will be an admission of liability. HMRC expect a full postponement application at this stage which they will generally accept.

[richt5a]

HMRC - Appeal Accepted

Morning All,

I received my 08/09 letter

Appealed, via Gilberts Tax Services

Received a Self Assessment Statement for 08/09 with a whopping bill plus interest

Spoke to Gilberts who said HMRC were struggling to deal with the volume of appeals letters

Have just received letter from HMRC acknowledging the appeal, agreeing to postpone the collection of the whopping Bill and removing the amount from the Self Assessment statement.
Letter states that if the postponed amount becomes due after appeal interest will be charged from date they originally became due.
Also asked for documentary evidence to support disputed amounts and just spotted it appears to have come from a different office to where previous correspondence has been going. Odd.

That letter about to be sent to Gilberts!

[vern19]

Morning All,

I received my 08/09 letter

Appealed, via Gilberts Tax Services

Received a Self Assessment Statement for 08/09 with a whopping bill plus interest

Spoke to Gilberts who said HMRC were struggling to deal with the volume of appeals letters

Have just received letter from HMRC acknowledging the appeal, agreeing to postpone the collection of the whopping Bill and removing the amount from the Self Assessment statement.
Letter states that if the postponed amount becomes due after appeal interest will be charged from date they originally became due.
Also asked for documentary evidence to support disputed amounts and just spotted it appears to have come from a different office to where previous correspondence has been going. Odd.

That letter about to be sent to Gilberts!

Let's hope that the vast majority of people appeal. The last thing we need is HMRC thinking this is going to be easy

[elbromista]

Ditto

And a Self Assessment Statement tonight, which declares the assessment to which this week's discovery assessment letter referred, is dated 31 Jan 10 - and that therefore an additional interest charge of almost 10% of the sum assessed by the week's earlier letter is due (on top of the sum assessed as due on alleged income, of course).

The Statement gives no details as to how to dispute the interest charge, which I would like to do on at least the grounds that:

a. I have appealed the validity of the assessment of liability on which the interest is showing as owed
b. That it is plainly ludicrous to assert that any such assessment was made in Jan 10, unless it was made by HMRC and "kept secret" for three years

Should I at least write to point out that I have already appealed the original assessment?

Hi - i got the letter today for 2008-9 - again it states "we will charge interest on the amount due from 31 Jan 2010 until it is paid" so yes surely this cant be right unless they have kept it to themselves. I've used the template which will be in the post in the morning but has everyone on here engaged professional services to act? Michael J Perry? Are Gilberts recommended? I was with TRM although i was with Batchworth as they were called and i dont recall signing anything re the company name change - i was actually only with them from around Oct 2007 to Sep 2008 then I went permanent in Sep of 2008 with same company on PAYE - the letter is a bolt of the blue for me. What recourse does everyone recommend - just send the appeal letter first and await response? Appreciate any replies - my health isnt great at the moment and getting this letter has rocked me a little - thanks v much - Stu

[Andy123]

Gilberts Tax

Are Gilberts recommended?

Yes, after much talking to many tax 'specialists' I realised that Gilberts had the most years experience dealing with HRMC over this and are representing some dozens of ex-TRM'ers. The bigger group also helps as they split the costs amongst the clients when meeting direct with HMRC.

Contact either Tony or Samantha as they work together on TRM appeals. They charge a very reasonable fee and only for work done. They did not ask for any money on account nor have tried to capitalise from our predicament. In fact I still have not yet been billed for the appeal they lodged some weeks ago.

[elbromista]

Yes, after much talking to many tax 'specialists' I realised that Gilberts had the most years experience dealing with HRMC over this and are representing some dozens of ex-TRM'ers. The bigger group also helps as they split the costs amongst the clients when meeting direct with HMRC.

Contact either Tony or Samantha as they work together on TRM appeals. They charge a very reasonable fee and only for work done. They did not ask for any money on account nor have tried to capitalise from our predicament. In fact I still have not yet been billed for the appeal they lodged some weeks ago.

thanks for quick reply Andy - is it worth me posting my letter of appeal or getting Gilberts to do it? Do you have a contact email address for Tony or Samantha or just go to their website - thnx again Stu

[Andy123]

is it worth me posting my letter of appeal or getting Gilberts to do it? Do you have a contact email address for Tony or Samantha or just go to their website - thnx again Stu

I also thought of submitting the appeal letter myself as there were many freebie templates floating around but in the end I decided to let them handle it from the start for me. You can get their details including mobile phone/email from their website.