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Originally posted by Iliketax View PostCourt of Appeal. I'm waiting to hear about a case where the UT refused permission (but the Court of Appeal goes on holiday today so who knows when I will hear).I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!Comment
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I think Webberg mentioned some cases going to tribunal. Does anyone know what these cases are and which Schemes are impacted?
Is there a list anywhere.Comment
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Originally posted by lowpaidworker View PostI think Webberg mentioned some cases going to tribunal. Does anyone know what these cases are and which Schemes are impacted?
Is there a list anywhere.
Scheme - Sandfield (very similar to TRM)
Case - Boyle
Stage - FTT
Result - lost, no appeal
Scheme - Penfolds/Hamilton
Case - Hoey
Stage - FTT
Result - lost - appeal period running - no public notice of appeal yet
Scheme - Montpelier DTA
Case - Lancashire, Lee
Stage - FTT
Result - not yet published
Scheme - Steed self employed - Avenue - Marra - Kirium - Invicta - Edge - Horizon
Case - TBA
Stage - FTT
Result - preparing for first hearingBest Forum Adviser & Forum Personality of the Year 2018.
(No, me neither).Comment
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Originally posted by webberg View PostSo far in Tribunal.
Scheme - Sandfield (very similar to TRM)
Case - Boyle
Stage - FTT
Result - lost, no appeal
Scheme - Penfolds/Hamilton
Case - Hoey
Stage - FTT
Result - lost - appeal period running - no public notice of appeal yet
Scheme - Montpelier DTA
Case - Lancashire, Lee
Stage - FTT
Result - not yet published
Scheme - Steed self employed - Avenue - Marra - Kirium - Invicta - Edge - Horizon
Case - TBA
Stage - FTT
Result - preparing for first hearing
If one of these cases is decided in favour of the taxpayer and that decisin is supported on appeal, what implication, if any, does that have for other members of the same scheme?Comment
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Originally posted by Snooky View PostAt the risk of appearing ignorant, are these people going to the tribunal to oppose the application of the loan charge on their scheme, or APNs, or what?
If one of these cases is decided in favour of the taxpayer and that decisin is supported on appeal, what implication, if any, does that have for other members of the same scheme?
APN cannot be appealed and instead have pursued a course via Judicial Review into the Administrative Court where all have so far lost their claim that the APN is in some manner invalid.
The cases listed are all concerned with whether the analysis of liability as determined by HMRC is correct or is there another analysis that is better.
The Tribunal process and progress is described in the thread.
If at any point a case is decided and becomes final, (no more appeals) then the decision can be applied to all similar cases.Best Forum Adviser & Forum Personality of the Year 2018.
(No, me neither).Comment
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Originally posted by webberg View PostScheme - Sandfield (very similar to TRM)
Case - Boyle
Stage - FTT
Result - lost, no appeal
Originally posted by webberg View PostScheme - Penfolds/Hamilton
Case - Hoey
Stage - FTT
Result - lost - appeal period running - no public notice of appeal yetComment
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This one interests me. How long will this take ?
Scheme - Steed self employed - Avenue - Marra - Kirium - Invicta - Edge - Horizon
Case - TBA
Stage - FTT
Result - preparing for first hearing
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Edge closed down eventually. Their EBT scheme was defeated as far as I know because of the Rangers case. I paid up my APN so I am assuming this challenge is or was their direct employee loan scheme from 2010-2011 skint.Comment
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Originally posted by lowpaidworker View PostThis one interests me. How long will this take ?
Scheme - Steed self employed - Avenue - Marra - Kirium - Invicta - Edge - Horizon
Case - TBA
Stage - FTT
Result - preparing for first hearing
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Edge closed down eventually. Their EBT scheme was defeated as far as I know because of the Rangers case. I paid up my APN so I am assuming this challenge is or was their direct employee loan scheme from 2010-2011 skint.
The challenge on Edge is for their loan scheme 2006 (? sorry on a train with no access to my database) onwards. Rangers did not defeat that scheme. Edge will be in Tribunal Q2 2020.Best Forum Adviser & Forum Personality of the Year 2018.
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Originally posted by webberg View PostWe will be in Tribunal within 6 months.
The challenge on Edge is for their loan scheme 2006 (? sorry on a train with no access to my database) onwards. Rangers did not defeat that scheme. Edge will be in Tribunal Q2 2020.Comment
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