2019 tax charge - consultation preparation

[AtW]

I think you will find, if you bothered to listen to the other side of the story, that it's HMRC / HMG who have caused the delays !

I believe HMRC were within their right to query within the time period allowed by the law.

After that I believe there were many years of litigation - these delays were entirely due to scheme users I believe.

Can you name one contractor scheme that has been in "litigation" for "many years"? Just one will do (but please spare us the "Boyle" nonsense).Then we will examine who exactly caused or is causing the "delays". Thanks.

Ok, let's say Huitson case -

28 January 2010: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8484955.stm

28 March 2014: court considers Human Rights: http://www.rossmartin.co.uk/sme-tax-...s-human-rights

06 Oct, 2015: HMRC secures victory in £200m double taxation loophole scam trial: http://citywire.co.uk/new-model-advi...-trial/a846676 (People who took advantage of the arrangement believed it would reduce their rate of income tax to less than 5%.)

So, litigation must have started in early 2009 or before, kind of concluded Oct 2015 - that's what, whopping 7 years of delays?

[Dylan]

I believe HMRC were within their right to query within the time period allowed by the law.

After that I believe there were many years of litigation - these delays were entirely due to scheme users I believe.

You are entitled to your own beliefs but not your own facts.

[regron]

I believe HMRC were within their right to query within the time period allowed by the law.

After that I believe there were many years of litigation - these delays were entirely due to scheme users I believe.

Or, HMRC send out enquiry letters, then sit on them for 10 years to ensure maximum revenue on the low hanging fruit. Yet elsewhere, Big Corporate companies such as google, get away with sweetener deals, because HMG / HMRC are too scared to take on people with deep pockets !!

If you speak to the majority (if not all) contractors caught up in this mess, we are open to settlement, but it has to be fair and final. The more they dig their heals in, the more we will too. There current strategy WILL NOT be the best outcome for them, or the economy....!!

[AtW]

Or, HMRC send out enquiry letters

As soon as inquiry letter was sent a smart person would have made CDT.

You are entitled to your own beliefs but not your own facts.

See facts about regarding delays with litigation - around 7 years by my count.

If you speak to the majority (if not all) contractors caught up in this mess, we are open to settlement, but it has to be fair and final. The more they dig their heals in, the more we will too. There current strategy WILL NOT be the best outcome for them, or the economy....!!

I think you've misunderstood their strategy.

I've given my view on what I think their strategy is but most people on here don't want to hear it.

HMRC strategy was as follows:

1) make rich tax avoiders pay up
2) bankrupt small people to make them an example to others

[DotasScandal]

that's what, whopping 7 years of delays?

No, that's 7 years of legal proceedings. It is not the taxpayers' fault that these take forever.

[AtW]

No, that's 7 years of legal proceedings. It is not the taxpayers' fault that these take forever.

It was delaying tactic in case of loss, that's why APNs appeared now.

But of course, it's all somebody elses fault to you - HMRC was too slow to charge you, legal system too slow to deal with appeals, the public isn't sympathetic, everybody is at fault here apart from you.

[DotasScandal]

It was delaying tactic in case of loss, that's why APNs appeared now.
But of course, it's all somebody elses fault to you - HMRC was too slow to charge you, legal system too slow to deal with appeals, the public isn't sympathetic, everybody is at fault here apart from you.

You're aware that HMRC has been delaying for the past 3 years the EBT cases that are finally making it to FTT next year ...right?

Also, you might want to consider these observations on the inconsistencies in HMRC's position.

[Whysoserious]

It was delaying tactic in case of loss, that's why APNs appeared now.

But of course, it's all somebody elses fault to you - HMRC was too slow to charge you, legal system too slow to deal with appeals, the public isn't sympathetic, everybody is at fault here apart from you.

You are so misinformed it's embarrassing.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I don't know why you keep feeding this tWA*

[AtW]

You're aware that HMRC has been delaying for the past 3 years the EBT cases that are finally making it to FTT next year ...right?

I've given you Huitson case, do you agree that 7 years of litigation there was a delay on part of the scheme users?

I don't know why you keep feeding this tWA*

Why are you so rude and unprofessional? There is General subforum for that.