Rebecca Brooks ' not guilty' Andy Coulson 'Guilty'

[VectraMan]

So they hacked the network side where the voice mail was stored rather than anything to do with the actual phone?

I think they phoned the victim's number and entered the default PIN that they hadn't bothered to change. The word "hacking" suggests it was in some way difficult, and as has been said they in no way accessed any phones.

[speling bee]

I think they phoned the victim's number and entered the default PIN that they hadn't bothered to change. The word "hacking" suggests it was in some way difficult, and as has been said they in no way accessed any phones.

Umm. Except they did actually hack the phones.

[VectraMan]

A couple of networks now make you change your PIN when you set up voicemail.

Three won't let me use 1234 OR 4321. Grrrr.

[SueEllen]

Three won't let me use 1234 OR 4321. Grrrr.

I wonder why.....

[Batcher]

You could call your mobile number from any phone and, I think (memory is a bit dodgy now!!), you entered a # or similar as it dialled and it put you through to the voicemail. Enter your pin (1234 or 0000 was the default) to listen. Most people obviously didn't change their pin numbers going by the amount of people "hacked".

It's not really hacking in my view as it didn't take much technical knowledge to do it.

That's the reason that getting the royal family phone book was so important as they only needed the phone numbers to virtually guarantee getting into the voicemails.

[FiveTimes]

Three won't let me use 1234 OR 4321. Grrrr.

Have you tried 1111 ?

[Unix]

Al-Jazeera journalists jailed for seven years in Egypt | World news | theguardian.com

Rebekah Brooks cleared of all charges in phone hacking trial - ITV News

[SueEllen]

Al-Jazeera journalists jailed for seven years in Egypt | World news | theguardian.com

Rebekah Brooks cleared of all charges in phone hacking trial - ITV News

The journalists being jailed was all over the news yesterday.

They even interviewed one who was sentenced in her absence on one of the news programs. She just has to be careful where she travels.

Funny world - journalists being jailed for reporting the news and being accused of being crooked, and journalists being jailed for actually being crooked.

I forgot to add that the UK is one of the countries that is suppose to have a free and uncorrupted news media. This sentencing of a newspaper editor means that we are officially corrupt.

[speling bee]

I forgot to add that the UK is one of the countries that is suppose to have a free and uncorrupted news media. This sentencing of a newspaper editor means that we are officially corrupt.

Surely it means that we're officially not free? Why would it mean we're corrupt?

[NickFitz]

Surely it means that we're officially not free? Why would it mean we're corrupt?

I think it should say "this former editor (and former Director of Communications for the Prime Minister) being found guilty" given that he hasn't been sentenced to anything yet.

As to whether a newspaper editor (and former Director of Communications for the Prime Minister) being determined by a jury in a court of law to be a lying weasel makes the UK corrupt: maybe it means we're not, as if we were he would have got away with it.

On the other hand, he did get away with it for an awfully long time; and I didn't see the once-Australian, now-American person who was paying his salary, presumably on the basis of the results of these illegal activities, being brought before the court.