Iraqi Civil war now official and under way

[speling bee]

Wouldn't call that severe repression....

So do you think Saudi Arabia is severely repressive of gays?

[MicrosoftBob]

Wouldn't call that severe repression....

So stoning isn't severe enough, you'd prefer the gas chamber ?

[kal]

Two Sides of the Same Coin

Lets face it Iran and Saudi are both as bad as each other. On one side you have fundamentalist shi-ites who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms, on the other side you have fundamentalist sunnis who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms. If it wasn't for a particular event in history they would all be on the same side who would still want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms...

[speling bee]

Lets face it Iran and Saudi are both as bad as each other. On one side you have fundamentalist shi-ites who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms, on the other side you have fundamentalist sunnis who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms. If it wasn't for a particular event in history they would all be on the same side who would still want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms...

I disagree with that. They may both be severely repressive but Saudi is significantly worse, and Iran has some aspects of civil society that we should find encouraging. And also, my beef is with the state and government of Iran, not the people. Iran was showing signs of becoming a flourishing democracy before the CIA toppled the democratic government.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Lets face it Iran and Saudi are both as bad as each other. On one side you have fundamentalist shi-ites who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms, on the other side you have fundamentalist sunnis who want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms. If it wasn't for a particular event in history they would all be on the same side who would still want to control what people say/think/wear/do coupled with a hatred of the west and its freedoms...

Sounding like the BBC.

[speling bee]

Sounding like the BBC.

What do you think you sound like?

[CloudWalker]

Iran was fine in the 60s and 70s untill Islam fuct it up. Women could dress how they wanted and people were free.

Page F30: Iran in the 1970s before the Islamic Revolution

Then



Now

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Iran was fine in the 60s and 70s untill Islam fuct it up. Women could dress how they wanted and people were free.

Page F30: Iran in the 1970s before the Islamic Revolution

Then



Now

And here we have Fox news.....

[speling bee]

Iran was fine in the 60s and 70s untill Islam fuct it up. Women could dress how they wanted and people were free.

So what do you make of political oppression under the Shah following the 1953 CIA backed coup against the democratic government? Was that 'free'?

[Gibbon]

So perhaps UK have got it about right, so you think?

The freedom to believe in superstitious nonsense or walk around like assassins is the exact same freedom to hold a public nude event; erode one and you erode the other.