I am not cut out to be a contractor!

[The Spartan]

I think he's a dev so sees things in his own viewpoint.

Can't really see a problem with either the dev or testing contract market at the moment. There does seem to be work around....

Surprise, surprise then

Bit of an idiotic comment to make then, you'd think he'd use his crystal ball for something better like winning the lottery

[The Spartan]

Perhaps I am wrong, I have just seen very few testing contracts around when I do my usual searches on jobserve.....

Also they seem to be shifting all the testing work onto devs more and more often these days. Currently doing testing, validation, development and release work. While I can appreciate that specialised testers are best at doing testing work, a lot of companies just don't budget for them or do the release cycle thing correctly.

I've been offered contracts by several different agencies for different clients, none of which were advertised on JS so perhaps recruiters are shifting their usage towards other methods and media.

Currently I don't know of any dev's who'd be willing to do sapient testing as at present there is no way escaping doing such testing, as for companies that don't employ testers hell that's down to them and how much they believe in quality with regards to their projects/products. I'm quite active in the test community and the same old topics rear their head from time to time whether it's automation, replacement of testers or the shift towards testers developing the fact always remains that as longs dev's write code there will be testers needed to test it.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

I've been offered contracts by several different agencies for different clients, none of which were advertised on JS so perhaps recruiters are shifting their usage towards other methods and media.

Currently I don't know of any dev's who'd be willing to do sapient testing as at present there is no way escaping doing such testing, as for companies that don't employ testers hell that's down to them and how much they believe in quality with regards to their projects/products. I'm quite active in the test community and the same old topics rear their head from time to time whether it's automation, replacement of testers or the shift towards testers developing the fact always remains that as longs dev's write code there will be testers needed to test it.

That's a fair comment. I have seen some testers complain about contracting and think about the move to permiedom, but perhaps that is just a few cases.

[The Spartan]

That's a fair comment. I have seen some testers complain about contracting and think about the move to permiedom, but perhaps that is just a few cases.

Generally I find the ones that do complain probably should become permanent, I think too many people jump into contracting(testing) with the wrong expectations like being able to command £x per day, or that they don't have to evolve to stay relevant. Every interview I've had has been about firstly experience and then secondly team fit and let's face it if you're a whinge bag you're going to fail the latter without a doubt.

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Generally I find the ones that do complain probably should become permanent, I think too many people jump into contracting(testing) with the wrong expectations like being able to command £x per day, or that they don't have to evolve to stay relevant. Every interview I've had has been about firstly experience and then secondly team fit and let's face it if you're a whinge bag you're going to fail the latter without a doubt.

Wouldn't that be doubly so for permies. You could cope with a whinge bag if you know that after 3 months when this project is gone they will be gone, would you really want them on a permanent basis forever?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Wouldn't that be doubly so for permies. You could cope with a whinge bag if you know that after 3 months when this project is gone they will be gone, would you really want them on a permanent basis forever?

Fair point, though with Permie once you are in it is difficult for the company to kick you out. Was really funny seeing a permie but their notice in recently and watching everybody breathe a sigh of relief that he was going.

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Fair point, though with Permie once you are in it is difficult for the company to kick you out. Was really funny seeing a permie but their notice in recently and watching everybody breathe a sigh of relief that he was going.

Yet you criticized me for a lesser typo....

[speling bee]

Yet you criticized me for a lesser typo....

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[MyUserName]

Yep, I am a C++ dev guy.

The contract market might well be good, my problem is that with Mrs MUN's foot still not recovering and mini and micro MUN needing to be taken to school at certain times etc. (especially as mini MUN has slight autism and goes mad if anything changes her routine) a local perm job might pay enough to keep us ticking over whilst covering the other bases. Otherwise I am probably going to be going into London to target the IBs down there.

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I blame chrome.....