If there were any morality about taxation then maybe there is an issue. Most people however look upon tax a s a means to punish people for daring to be wealthy. I would further argue that gary barlow et al are better spenders of their own wealth than UK government.
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIf there were any morality about taxation then maybe there is an issue. Most people however look upon tax a s a means to punish people for daring to be wealthy. I would further argue that gary barlow et al are better spenders of their own wealth than UK government.
OK, so essential public services need to be paid for, and we could debate what's 'essential' until we're all blue in the teeth, but I see a disturbing tendency towards jealousy among many people, especially when they talk about taxing 'the rich' or the 'multinationals'. It's not just jealousy from the left; at the weekend I was in the UK and had a look at the Daily Wail and the Times, as they were delivered to Tester Senior Towers; the Wail was on about Prince William spending lots of money to get his house decorated, and the Times was on about Britain's richest man. Why this obsession with how much money other people have? I couldn't give a stuff if Gary Barlow has earned millions by working away at the one thing he does quite well or some retail guy has done well by selling lots of perfume; well done to them.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostBloody hell, we still agree on some things.
OK, so essential public services need to be paid for, and we could debate what's 'essential' until we're all blue in the teeth, but I see a disturbing tendency towards jealousy among many people, especially when they talk about taxing 'the rich' or the 'multinationals'. It's not just jealousy from the left; at the weekend I was in the UK and had a look at the Daily Wail and the Times, as they were delivered to Tester Senior Towers; the Wail was on about Prince William spending lots of money to get his house decorated, and the Times was on about Britain's richest man. Why this obsession with how much money other people have? I couldn't give a stuff if Gary Barlow has earned millions by working away at the one thing he does quite well or some retail guy has done well by selling lots of perfume; well done to them.The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
George Frederic Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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Originally posted by speling bee View PostSo do you think that taxation should only be used to pay for essential public services?And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostAs I said, what is 'essential' is very debatable. I would include some things that others would not include, like some level of support for the arts; my point is about jealousy, and not the existence of taxation.The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
George Frederic Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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Originally posted by speling bee View PostDo you mean jealousy, envy or covetousness?And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post1 and 3. Envy is a slightly less negatively loaded word in my understanding.
And you expect people not to be jealous?
People don't mind those who are rich through working hard and creating jobs. Its parasites (like DA) which f**ks everyone right off. And immigrants who only benefit the rich.
We need a fairer society. Which we won't get under Labour - they are as bad as the Torys.Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostIf there were any morality about taxation then maybe there is an issue. Most people however look upon tax a s a means to punish people for daring to be wealthy.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by d000hg View PostWhich "most people" do you refer to? I would argue very few people disagree we should pay taxes - even the people who go to great lengths to avoid (or evade) paying tax are probably in favour of tax in a general sense.Comment
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Originally posted by BrilloPad View PostSo the government stuffs loads of money to bankers, makes them filthy rich and provides cheap immigrants to do their dirty work.
SNIP.
1) The government used taxpayers money to bail out banks - Correct
2) The government allows cheap labour in from overseas - True ish...
But the two cannot be made into 1 sentence implying they are in some way joinedComment
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