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UKIP Vs Good Old fashioned self interest

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    Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
    Oh dear. No; the Nigerian government needs help in dealing with this, but yes, that will probably involve shooting the bastards who've done this to get the girls free and to send a signal that mad fundamentalists will not be allowed to take over power in a huge chunk of Africa. The French government did a pretty good job of intervening in Mali, and they did it for precisely the reasons I stated, that a disintegration of African states would lead to a huge flow of refugees into Europe. They deserve some support, even if some of M. Hollande's other policies might seem ridiculous.

    These two young fellows sum it up quite well;

    so my last and serious answer?

    Unfortunately we can't do anything until the Nigerian government say go (hence my poke at Oxford Princes) otherwise we will be in another far flung conflict with Muslims (yes they are nutters but they are also Muslims which the radical preachers will use to stir up unrest locally).
    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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      Originally posted by vetran View Post
      so my last and serious answer?

      Unfortunately we can't do anything until the Nigerian government say go (hence my poke at Oxford Princes) otherwise we will be in another far flung conflict with Muslims (yes they are nutters but they are also Muslims which the radical preachers will use to stir up unrest locally).
      Yes, your serious answer. You're right, the Nigerian government have to approve, and that's obviously only right; they have other considerations as well, not least of which is trying to hold a country together that subsumed or part-subsumed several previous states with very varied cultures, rivalries and histories and which are difficult to unite. Goodluck Jonathan's government is probably the least awful government they've had in a long time and it's important that it isn't undermined. However, I think they're actually under so much pressure from their own public that they'll have to go along with a western offer of help, and indeed there are discussions going on;

      Britain in talks to help rescue Nigerian schoolgirls - Telegraph

      Anyway, in Mali most of the Imams supported the French intervention because they were getting a bit tired of watching the terrorists blowing up ancient mosques.
      Last edited by Mich the Tester; 6 May 2014, 13:07.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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