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    #41
    Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
    Ok, so how does the Eurocrats carry on year after year with no approved accounts?

    The level of bureaucracy in the name of European harmonisation is beyond the absurd.

    The UK needs to get it's head out of the EU bureaucratic arse.
    There's a lot of corruption/unaccountability/unrepresentativeness within the UN, NATO, IMF, G8, G20. Would you want to walk out from all of them?
    <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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      #42
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      Well thats probably the biggest bunch of arse I've heard since an agent told me that they're only working for my best interests
      It is not at all. the MEPs simply sit and rubber stamp everything put in front of them, whereass what they should be doing is shaping and leading policy
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #43
        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        It is not at all. the MEPs simply sit and rubber stamp everything put in front of them, whereass what they should be doing is shaping and leading policy
        Well they won't really do that if they don't turn up to work will they?
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #44
          Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
          the [xxxx] simply sit and rubber stamp everything put in front of them, whereass what they should be doing is shaping and leading policy

          where xxxx = any middle management yes-boy would do in any office anywhere in the world.

          Isn't that what MPs do in UK?
          <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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            #45
            Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
            Ok, so how does the Eurocrats carry on year after year with no approved accounts?

            The level of bureaucracy in the name of European harmonisation is beyond the absurd. For some light aircraft arse have a look in the recent EASA issues with IMC ratings in the UK. Or the recent issues surrounding Motorcycling, or Sailing. Intrastats anyone? Emission targets and 60 mile hour mandatory speed limits on the M6. It just goes on and on and on .... Tobin tax, banking transaction taxes. Works councils.

            The UK needs to get it's head out of the EU bureaucratic arse.
            Still **** all to do with Eurocrats being unaccountable...

            60mph on M6 - part of the Highways Agency Controlled Motorways scheme (Smart Motorways) which is in part due to moves to meet European Union rules on fighting dangerous levels of air pollution. Don't see that in other countries, its just how the UK government decide to implement these laws which were passed by MEPs who were democratically elected

            Works councils - have been around since the 20's in other countries. The EWC Directive (94/45/EC) applies to all companies with 1,000 or more workers, and at least 150 employees in each of two or more EU Member States. So if you don't have at least 150 employees in other countries, then it doesn't affect you (in Britain they're called Joint Consultative Committee) and is still only formed when more than 100 employees of the company want one

            Banking Transaction Taxes - not too sure what you mean, do you mean the EU Financial Transaction Tax which is where shares and bonds transactions would be taxed at 0.1% and derivatives at 0.01%, or something totally different

            Intrastats - I don't see what is wrong with this, its only a system for collecting information and producing statistics on the trade in goods between countries of the EU

            and so on....
            Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              It is not at all. the MEPs simply sit and rubber stamp everything put in front of them, whereass what they should be doing is shaping and leading policy
              Yep,

              MEPs reject Commission proposal on origin labelling of meat | EurActiv

              MEPs reject paper waste proposal over health concerns | EurActiv

              MEPs reject draft seed regulation

              and so on...
              Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                #47
                Don't confuse Dodgy with your so-called facts.
                The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                George Frederic Watts

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                  Don't confuse Dodgy with your so-called facts.
                  The most important aspect of leadership in government is to shape and implement policy. Being an MEP is hardly a problem solving role is it? If you lobby your local MP then provided there is sufficient support they will deliver it to the government department who will/will not come up with a solution.

                  The work of MEPs is negative or rubber stamping. It requires a lower calibre of person to do this type of work. Even Health and Safety managers have to be creative and lead. It may be they pass or refuse policies handed down to them but democratic policy making should be about more than this.

                  If you then dissolve the representation down to one vote out of 300 odd million it is no wonder people do not feel that they have any say in the running of Europe
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    It is not at all. the MEPs simply sit and rubber stamp everything put in front of them, whereass what they should be doing is shaping and leading policy
                    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                    The work of MEPs is negative or rubber stamping.
                    Which is it?
                    The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

                    George Frederic Watts

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by speling bee View Post
                      Which is it?
                      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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