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UKIP will walk it?
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Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. -
Originally posted by doodab View PostI think that is the fundamental problem with British politics at the moment. People are looking to UKIP because they want an alternative to the big three and UKIP offers a compelling narrative with the EU as the villain. I don't agree with that picture, I think our problems lie closer to home, which is why I won't be voting for any of the others either.
Now, if a real domestic alternative were to come on the scene that would really shake things up.Originally posted by darmstadt View PostThe majority of UKIP supporters seem to be too stupid/ill informed to realise that UKIP is a party for right-wing extremists that are too dodgy (Neil Hamilton) or too right-wing for the Tory party (most of their donors and MEPs).
Every time there's an election I've looked at the programmes and the candidates hoping for a real alternative, namely the 'just sod off and leave us alone' party, and usually I've ended up voting for some conservative or classical liberal party for want of something better, and now we have Nigel Farage, a slightly comical but apparently harmless character leading a party full of bigoted old gits he's dragged out of a second rate bingo hall, pretending to be libertarian while actually adding nothing whatsoever to human freedom and not even turning up to work to defend the freedom of restaurant owners to pour olive oil into the jug of their choice.
No, sorry but UKIP are more of the same old officious, authoritarian crap and I'm not falling for their lies.Last edited by Mich the Tester; 1 May 2014, 20:49.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostI'm afraid I find UKIP...Mich get rather wound up here
- it will wake up the Euro-bureaucrats to the fact that there is a real problem in the way that the EU is run and that changes/reforms need to be made which would be good and I am hoping will happen...
- these right wing politicians will slowly become the majority in the EU parliament and instead of slowly dismantling the power structure of the EU and possibly reverting back to the original mission statement they will instead let the power get to them and remember the last time right wingers were in power in Europe (and remember, a lot of these nationalist parties seem to like Putin as well) and these ones have been voted for...“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostSo Helmet are you saying all trade with EU countries will stop if the UK pulls out?Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostI think the upcoming Euro elections might be interesting. According to the majority of press reports it seems that nationalistic, anti-Eu, right wing parties are liable to get a lot of votes. I believe this will have one of at least two outcomes:
- it will wake up the Euro-bureaucrats to the fact that there is a real problem in the way that the EU is run and that changes/reforms need to be made which would be good and I am hoping will happen...
- these right wing politicians will slowly become the majority in the EU parliament and instead of slowly dismantling the power structure of the EU and possibly reverting back to the original mission statement they will instead let the power get to them and remember the last time right wingers were in power in Europe (and remember, a lot of these nationalist parties seem to like Putin as well) and these ones have been voted for...Comment
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Originally posted by Mich the Tester View PostIt's ******* laughable to call them an alternative.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostI think the upcoming Euro elections might be interesting. According to the majority of press reports it seems that nationalistic, anti-Eu, right wing parties are liable to get a lot of votes. I believe this will have one of at least two outcomes:
- it will wake up the Euro-bureaucrats to the fact that there is a real problem in the way that the EU is run and that changes/reforms need to be made which would be good and I am hoping will happen...
- these right wing politicians will slowly become the majority in the EU parliament and instead of slowly dismantling the power structure of the EU and possibly reverting back to the original mission statement they will instead let the power get to them and remember the last time right wingers were in power in Europe (and remember, a lot of these nationalist parties seem to like Putin as well) and these ones have been voted for...Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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Originally posted by Brussels Slumdog View PostNo , but if UKIP becomes a majority in Parlement then the whole world would stop trading. There is no way that a predominant socialist europe , Latin America and Africa would continue business as usual with a right wing, racist government.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy..
The point is that the EU parliament doesn't have any real power, the unelected commissioners and eurocrats do.
In certain legislative areas, the European Parliament is requested to give its consent, as a special legislative procedure under Article 289(2) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU). The consent procedure gives Parliament the right of veto. Parliament's role is thus to approve or reject the legislative proposal without further amendments and the Council cannot overrule Parliament's opinion. Consent is also required as a non-legislative procedure when the Council is adopting certain international agreements.Following the entry into force of the Lisbon Treaty, the European Parliament now shares the power to decide on the entire annual budget of the EU with the Council of the European Union and it has the final say.The European Parliament has a range of supervisory and control powers. These allow it to exercise oversight over other institutions, to monitor the proper use of the EU budget and to ensure the correct implementation of EU law.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy..
The point is that the EU parliament doesn't have any real power, the unelected commissioners and eurocrats do.
I'm strongly pro-EU but I think the EU should get rid of the EU Commission and the European Council and give more power to European Parliament.
UKIP and other Eu-sceptics blame the Treaty of Maastricht but it was actually the Treaty of Nice (2001) and the Treaty of Lisbon (2007) that fecked it.<Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!Comment
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