Disclosure Scotland Delays at who's coat?

[minestrone]

However.....the point remains ( although this was obviously not clear in the original post) that the on boarding process required an extended four weeks wait. The draft contract was then supplied at 4pm on the Friday with agent requesting start the following Monday....and the contract stinks ( I.e. 1week notice for agent, four weeks for contractor). Is it just me or are agents ( especially the bigger ones) becoming more and more arrogant and unreasonable. Further clauses in said contract state suspension without pay for no specific reason.... It's this real?...and this is a major agent for a tier one corporate.
So the defense is always ' we have hundreds of contractors on this contract.....'.
So either there's a majority of eejits in contracting ( not my experience) or there's a lot of p*ss taking going on by dumb a**e agents ...but why? Because they want to avoid all risk and screw the contractor at all cost.
Is this basically the contractors lot now?
As for some of the comments about being paid for not providing details ( for the record)...everything was produced as requested within 48 hours. The follow up process ( four weeks of it) was agent/client side.
Hope that makes sense after a rather liquid Saturday night bbq!

Tier one corporates don't ask for DS.

[Troll]

When my security clearance took an age to come through, I started looking for another contract and told the agent so. They told the client, who really didn't want to start the whole process again, so escalated my approval. (I did some stuff from my side as well, through personal contacts in the organisation).

If you don't like your contract having uneven notice periods, then negotiate for change. Once you've actually been offered the contract, and all the paper work is going through, the agents will, in fact, move heaven and earth to keep you on, so long as you're reasonable. Of course their natural first response is to not want to change, but you have to push and not let them get your goat.

Similar situation... I told em to fook it in the end as I got so p*ssed off with it and the client ended up giving me a waiver to start

[eek]

Surely you follow the following logic:-

   var working=I am set at desk in clientco;
   if (!working){
      keep looking.
      if (hasAgentThrownSpannerInWorks){
          tell agent I'm still looking as spanner needs to be solved.
      }
    } 

[BrilloPad]

Surely you follow the following logic:-

   var working=I am set at desk in clientco;
   if (!working){
      keep looking.
      if (hasAgentThrownSpannerInWorks){
          tell agent I'm still looking as spanner needs to be solved.
      }
    } 

Not much error checking. Or reality checking. I think you need an IsAgentSpanner var.

[Mulder]

Uneven notice periods are due to clients trying to get away with it (you would prefer it if was in your favour) and lazy agents. At same client I've known contractors on uneven & even notice dates. So uneven notices may be standard for the client but aren't the only option, ask your agent to negotiate this.

Start looking for another role, and ask if they can get an exemption so you can start whilst the Disclosure Scotland checks are in progress.

For a large Tier 1 in Glasgow (think bottom of Bath st), I was on site & working whilst some remaining checks were completed, and a friend at the well known Scottish investments company on George st Edinburgh, after advice from me managed to get an exemption to start whilst his Disclosure Scotland was being processed.

So if Disclosure Scotland is the only thing preventing you being on site, then you should be able request to start working whilst that is in progress.

[Mulder]

Tier one corporates don't ask for DS.

Fairly standard in Scotland these days, maybe its just the agencies.
But my contract gigs at RBS, Citi, Barclays, Standard Life (group), & NAG (all Scottish based), I have always had a Disclosure Scotland, as I haven't changed address, during this and have an enhanced one due to my voluntary activities it is a fairly quick process for me.

Again this could be due to the agencies I am using but from asking around seems fairly standard in my experience.

[independancerocks]

Similar situation... I told em to fook it in the end as I got so p*ssed off with it and the client ended up giving me a waiver to start

Indeed. My conclusion is that you one must be prepared to do this ( and therefore use associated language) for them to take it seriously.

[minestrone]

Fairly standard in Scotland these days, maybe its just the agencies.
But my contract gigs at RBS, Citi, Barclays, Standard Life (group), & NAG (all Scottish based), I have always had a Disclosure Scotland, as I haven't changed address, during this and have an enhanced one due to my voluntary activities it is a fairly quick process for me.

Again this could be due to the agencies I am using but from asking around seems fairly standard in my experience.

Worked for 2 on that list and probably about half a dozen other financials in the Scotland and never been asked to produce DS. Public sector gigs only.

[independancerocks]

Fairly standard in Scotland these days, maybe its just the agencies.
But my contract gigs at RBS, Citi, Barclays, Standard Life (group), & NAG (all Scottish based), I have always had a Disclosure Scotland, as I haven't changed address, during this and have an enhanced one due to my voluntary activities it is a fairly quick process for me.

Again this could be due to the agencies I am using but from asking around seems fairly standard in my experience.

Last three Telco contracts have all requested DS with no start, until it's complete, although good advice elsewhere here about formally requesting a waiver to start. This would likely depend somewhat on the Business urgency/risk. I.e. if it's not deemed urgent it might be difficult to get the waiver.

[independancerocks]

Surely you follow the following logic:-

   var working=I am set at desk in clientco;
   if (!working){
      keep looking.
      if (hasAgentThrownSpannerInWorks){
          tell agent I'm still looking as spanner needs to be solved.
      }
    } 

Agree about agent being spanner logic needs to added (as per below post). Other than that I totally agree with this. Unfortunately in this case this code didn't run, hence OP note about pressure due to need for the income.

Nevertheless, time to run the code as the arguments do not change!