It's grim oop north

[scooterscot]

I guess for some it's an attractive quality.

[Freaki Li Cuatre]

I guess for some it's an attractive quality.

Only if you're one of those right-on overgrown student types wishing to experience something a bit "edgy"

[scooterscot]

Only if you're one of those right-on overgrown student types wishing to experience something a bit "edgy"

That's why I love Berlin. You get the edge without the commitment.

[Freaki Li Cuatre]

That's why I love Berlin. You get the edge without the commitment.

And no scallies!

[sasguru]

That's why I love Berlin. You get the edge without the commitment.

Bollux. Berlin has become a sanitised tourist trap and lost all its character.
It had genuine edge around 25 years ago when I first visited.

[scooterscot]

Bollux. London has become a sanitised tourist trap and lost all its character.
I

FTFY

It had genuine edge around 25 years ago when I first visited.

I, like most others I suspect, prefer it without the wall.

[sasguru]

I, like most others I suspect, prefer it without the wall.

Shows how very little you know. Plenty of West Berliners resented the wall coming down, which removed their privileged and subsidised status as a Western enclave in the Soviet heartland.

[stek]

Shows how very little you know. Plenty of West Berliners resented the wall coming down, which removed their privileged and subsidised status as a Western enclave in the Soviet heartland.

Mauer im Kopf.

[woohoo]

A mate of mine went up to Old Trafford recently to see a match. He parked in a street not too far from the ground and said he was immediately surrounded by scruffy teen scallies in tracksuits wanting protection money.

He parks in the street near the Emirates most weeks and never a single problem.

Who'd want to go somewhere like that?

Well guess that means all of Manchester is a write-off.

[woohoo]

I don't understand Manchester either. Been a few times, mostly to use the airport. But goodness chav central.

Yep, you can often judge a region by the people at the airport.