Poker rules. Verbal statements out of turn heads up...

[tarbera]

Interesting

Had an interesting night at poker last night and didn't see the outcome so wondering if any poker buffs can clarify..

Here's the situation. Cash table, about £400 in the pot, turn card comes and it's heads up with a regular against a pretty gobby drunk young lad. It's the regulars turn to play and he is thinking. Young lad then states 'If you put me all in I will fold'. They both have about £150 in front of them. The regular laughs, states 'All in', mucks his cards, reaches for the chips. The drunk lad also quickly calls 'All in' and turns over quads he got on the flop. Dealer states the regular as the winner. At this point all hell breaks loose with everyone shouting at each other, floor manager and two door staff turn up. The drunk guy as you can imagine is a tad het up.

They argue the rules and what was said for ages and eventually go away to listen to the recordings of the table and start asking exactly how much each has in his stack. At this point our table breaks down and due to the drunk lad kicking off we are asked to leave the area so never heard the outcome.

A verbal statement out of turn heads up in tournament play is binding I believe. Someone tells me even not heads up it is now binding but no one seems to know if that is true. There is also the argument the lad had more than the regular so he would only have had to call the all in so technically he hasn't been put all in.

Anyone got an opinion on what would have happened here?

young lad prob does same sort of thing in a home game and got away with it with his mates who knew no better. Statement bluff was binding

[kingcook]

I'm pretty sure that would be classed as playing out of turn, which is not allowed.

As someone else said, the action would be binding.

[northernladuk]

young lad prob does same sort of thing in a home game and got away with it with his mates who knew no better. Statement bluff was binding

I think that was probably agreed but had to argue if he 'put him all in' or not. I am sure that one went on and on...

You get a lot of people stating crap at the table like this particularly when drunk and not many people pick up on it. 'I'll show if you fold' or something similar and then they don't show would be a useful one to pick up on if it's binding to get extra info on people. I am not so sure that is the same thing though as it's not a play but anyway, I think knowing the finer points of what is and isn't binding could be a useful tool.

Am going to Vegas in a few weeks and the American tourists do talk a lot of crap, particularly in hands which doesn't seem as frowned upon over there as it does here, particularly on 1-2 tables. Could be quite profitable to know the rules and use them to my advantage while I am over there.

[northernladuk]

I'm pretty sure that would be classed as playing out of turn, which is not allowed.

As someone else said, there action would be binding.

It isn't etiquette but if you do play out of turn and the action doesn't change before it gets to you it can be binding but there is a host of rules that come in to play which makes it complicated, added to that the verbal element and so on.

[mudskipper]

Which bit of clothing did he have to remove?

[MyUserName]

Are there really no house rules which clarify this kind of thing?

[northernladyuk]

Which bit of clothing did he have to remove?

At least that explains the elephant thong I found in his pocket this morning.

[MyUserName]

At least that explains the elephant thong I found in his teeth this morning.

FTFY

[tractor]

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Back in the old days we would have just shot him and got another bourbon