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Businesses should be allowed to turn away women, gay and black people

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    #21
    Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
    Anyone who supposes that business should be forced to treat all potential patrons equally is a sick puppy.
    How about monopolies & near monopolies such as train operating companies? Should the government allow private enterprise to unilaterally create apartheid? How about when the neighbors decide on economic sanctions that hurt everyone?
    While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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      #22
      I thought the Troll Patrol hated the Daily Mail?

      Anyway before you read the DM or the Guardian Some background on Libertarianism which is at the crux of the argument.


      What is Libertarian? | The Institute for Humane Studies

      The central idea of libertarianism is that people should be permitted to run their own lives as they wish
      Liberals favor government action to promote equality, whereas conservatives favor government action to promote order. Libertarians favor freedom and oppose government action to promote either equality or order
      Platform | Libertarian Party

      As Libertarians, we seek a world of liberty; a world in which all individuals are sovereign over their own lives and no one is forced to sacrifice his or her values for the benefit of others.
      Buying and selling good and services is an individual choice and not one that the state should interfere with.

      I'm actually surprised just how many contractors on here seem to like the idea of State control.

      Or is a case of one rule for me and one rule for the little people?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Flashman View Post
        Or is a case of one rule for me and one rule for the little people?
        I think it's a case of not wanting to live in the middle ages.
        While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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          #24
          Originally posted by Flashman View Post
          I thought the Troll Patrol hated the Daily Mail?

          Anyway before you read the DM or the Guardian Some background on Libertarianism which is at the crux of the argument.


          What is Libertarian? | The Institute for Humane Studies





          Platform | Libertarian Party



          Buying and selling good and services is an individual choice and not one that the state should interfere with.

          I'm actually surprised just how many contractors on here seem to like the idea of State control.

          Or is a case of one rule for me and one rule for the little people?
          As I suggested earlier, I'm quite happy for a privately owned business to discriminate against or turn away about 70% of the population on nonsensical criteria, as long as the rest of us don't have to pick up the financial damage when it goes bust as a consequence of such stupidity.
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #25
            Originally posted by doodab View Post
            I think it's a case of not wanting to live in the middle ages.
            Incorrect. Society in the middle ages was very strictly controlled by the Church and the Aristocracy. You did what your superior wanted. Everyone had a place and woe betide you if you tried to change that.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
              As I suggested earlier, I'm quite happy for a privately owned business to discriminate against or turn away about 70% of the population on nonsensical criteria, as long as the rest of us don't have to pick up the financial damage when it goes bust as a consequence of such stupidity.
              A Libertarian would agree with you there.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Flashman View Post

                Buying and selling good and services is an individual choice and not one that the state should interfere with.

                I'm actually surprised just how many contractors on here seem to like the idea of State control.

                Or is a case of one rule for me and one rule for the little people?
                That's it pick on the midgets!
                Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by doodab View Post
                  How about monopolies & near monopolies such as train operating companies? Should the government allow private enterprise to unilaterally create apartheid? How about when the neighbors decide on economic sanctions that hurt everyone?
                  Well in that case the trains are only pseudo-private, so I guess it wouldn't make sense for them ostracise particular sections of the public who legislate their practises and existence.

                  Private enterprise cannot unilaterally create apartheid. Only their customer's (i.e. the public )can.

                  I don't understand what the neighbours thing means?

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                    #29
                    True Libertarians are also proponents of open borders and free movement of capital and labour.

                    How well this bodes with UKIP, heaven help me!
                    <Insert idea here> will never be adopted because the politicians are in the pockets of the banks!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                      I would add that if businesses choose to turn away more than half the population (women about 50%, gays between 5 and 10% and black people I think between 5 and 10%), then when they go bust as a consequence, the owners should lose limited liability rights for being cretins and should not receive any state benefits; I don't see why women, black people and gay people should pay NI contributions to finance the benefits of sexist, racist, homophobic losers.
                      So a company making sanitary towels would be penalised then - they're only selling to the subset of the female population who menstruate?
                      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                      Originally posted by vetran
                      Urine is quite nourishing

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