Alternatives to flying

[AtW]

Even with the terrorist threat flying is still one of the safest forms of transport.

Its a load of statistical crap: ask your self simple thing - would you rather get into accident in a car or in an airplane? At least in the car its under your control, and if need be the death will be instant or you survice, very quickly decided, but on airplane you will have a few minutes to think over my words while going down to certain death - fk that, not even for £2k per day I would accept weekly flying.

[Rantor]

Faaaaark me sir! £500+ per day, where did you see that? 550€ per day all inclusive. Maybe I'm under-selling myself?

Expat - what country are you working in? 700 euros+ is possible for Siebel roles in Belgium (my current site and at least two others I know of.)

You're not by any chance ex-Gamut from Glasgow are you?

[Francko]

Just 550 euros? Then my £350 per day rate I charge for working from home is rather healthy, and I thought I was the biggest loser on this board...

[The Lone Gunman]

Its a load of statistical crap: ask your self simple thing - would you rather get into accident in a car or in an airplane? At least in the car its under your control, and if need be the death will be instant or you survice, very quickly decided, but on airplane you will have a few minutes to think over my words while going down to certain death - fk that, not even for £2k per day I would accept weekly flying.

More people die on the roads than do flying. As a driver and a pedestrian you take the risk hundreds of times a week.
More than 90% of murders are commited by relatives or friends so only answer the door to strangers.
A large amount of deaths are due to domestic accidents so best not stay in then.
Oh Oh Oh, I am so scared I daren't do anything!

You have to die of something mate. To paraphrase some great speaker or other "I would rather die standing in defiance than live on my knees".

[AtW]

More people die on the roads than do flying.

A lot of people die in blackspots, due to bad driving and generally not being prepared for what may happen - when I drive I am in control and I am prepared for many eventualities, I also choose routes carefull and drive in good time. This reduces my personal risk big time, and should the crash happen at least it will be quick: on an airplane you will have long enough time to think over your life choices while it plunges down to the ground, that's a few minutes at least.

Also cars making far more journeys than airplanes - the stats for airplane safety is the one of the biggest misrepresentations out there.

[The Lone Gunman]

A lot of people die in blackspots, due to bad driving and generally not being prepared for what may happen - when I drive I am in control and I am prepared for many eventualities, I also choose routes carefull and drive in good time. This reduces my personal risk big time, and should the crash happen at least it will be quick: on an airplane you will have long enough time to think over your life choices while it plunges down to the ground, that's a few minutes at least.

Also cars making far more journeys than airplanes - the stats for airplane safety is the one of the biggest misrepresentations out there.

There are 32 million cars (and therefore owners) in the UK and last year 3100 people died in car accidents. Could you tell me how many Brits died on UK domestic, outbound or inbound flights?

It does not matter how careful you are, the chances are it will be some other idiot who kills you.
How long it takes to die is irrelevant. You could end up cut in half but still alive and in great pain in a car wreck.

It's OK TwAttY, you stick to driving and leave the flying to those of us who are not affraid.

[AtW]

There are 32 million cars (and therefore owners) in the UK and last year 3100 people died in car accidents.

How many journeys such cars made, twice a day perhaps? That would make it 2 x 300 (say we ignore 65 days of not driving) x 32,000,000 = 19,200,000,000 journeys (conservative figure) and 3000 deaths - roughly this is 0.15 dead per million journeys. Now this is averages, which means that those who drive every day through known blackspots risk more, and those who don't risk less, so in practice it would be common for risk of death to fluctuate at least 5 times: say I drive off peak on empty roads, my risk is probably 10 times less - 0.01 dead per million journeys.

So what's the airline figures? Here are some:

Airline Rate Flights FLE* Events Last
British Airways+ 0.17 8.27M 1.40 2 1985


Rate of 0.17 per million flights. Ohhh what's the rate? Its so called fatal event - Each of these events involved the death of at least one airline passenger.

So how many passengers you think will die when airplane crashes down? More than one ffs, the whole thing about how safe airplanes are is a load of statistical lies.

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And add to this psycological thing - in car you will get killed quickly, you simple won't have much time to be afraid, but in airplane you will have more than enough to really sh1t your pants while parts of the plane are going down.

I sure leave flying to others.

[expat]

Expat - what country are you working in? 700 euros+ is possible for Siebel roles in Belgium (my current site and at least two others I know of.)

You're not by any chance ex-Gamut from Glasgow are you?

Spain but I got the same in Holland and France and only 50 more in Switzerland. Am I asking too little?

Got any jobs there? I'd like to work in Belgium, possibly for quite a while.

Not me. From around Glasgow, yes.

[DimPrawn]

I like the idea of having 3 minutes before impact.

Gives me a chance to shout at the wife "See, I told you flying was dangerous, you silly cow".

[expat]

I like the idea of having 3 minutes before impact.

Gives me a chance to shout at the wife "See, I told you flying was dangerous, you silly cow".

In a car accident you might well have many years of reduced mobility after the accident. It's flying that is quick.

Not quick enough I suppose. Maybe cyanide masks should drop down from the ceiling....