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    #51
    Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
    No. As I stated in my previous post, I didn't know the child was 3 years old. Honour killings aside, there have been cases of young children being killed as a direct result of the culture into which they are born. Victoria Climbie ring any bells?
    Yes, it does, and if you bother to read the inquiry it is clear that it is child cruelty case.

    The inquiry determined that, like you, assumptions were made by many in terms of racial culture
    Victoria was a black child, and many of the staff who had contact with her were also
    black. To what extent racism may have been a contributory factor in what happened to
    Victoria is a centrally important question. Lord Laming told us that he found no evidence
    of overt racism, but what the Inquiry did find “was staff making assumptions that because people originated from a particular culture that behaviour could be described as being
    culturally determined, when in fact they knew nothing about that culture and had never
    visited the country.”50 For example, the way in which Victoria ‘jumped to attention’ when
    Kouao was present was assumed by some to be a reflection of her upbringing on the Ivory
    Coast. In fact, the reality was quite different and Victoria had not been expected to behave
    in this way with her own parents.
    Yet more examples of eek's succinct comment that people attach racial stereotypes
    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,it must be a duck

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      #52
      Originally posted by Platypus View Post
      Explain pls. In what way was VC's death a direct result of the culture into which she was born?
      Culture into which she was raised - She had West African guardians who believed all that hoodoo about demonic possessions etc.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Bellona View Post
        The inquiry determined that, like you, assumptions were made by many in terms of racial culture
        well, we all know how reliable the findings of inquiries normally turn out to be.

        But - if it makes you feel better, gives you a nice warm feeling inside because you've identified what you perceive to be a racist element to my post then let's leave it at that.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
          Culture into which she was raised - She had West African guardians who believed all that hoodoo about demonic possessions etc.
          Just as I thought. You know FA about that case either.

          Oh, except that it was superstitious primitive darkies what did it, eh?

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            #55
            Originally posted by Platypus View Post
            Just as I thought. You know FA about that case either.

            Oh, except that it was superstitious primitive darkies what did it, eh?
            Oh, another one. What's your user ID over at CiF?

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              #56
              Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
              Culture into which she was raised - She had West African guardians who believed all that hoodoo about demonic possessions etc.
              Believe me, while some of the old beliefs in demons and the like live on, often integrated into local variants of Christianity or Islam, there really aren't very many people in West Africa who take the old beliefs to the point of abusing and even murdering kids. The place would be pretty empty otherwise.
              And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                #57
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                Believe me, while some of the old beliefs in demons and the like live on, often integrated into local variants of Christianity or Islam, there really aren't very many people in West Africa who take the old beliefs to the point of abusing and even murdering kids. The place would be pretty empty otherwise.
                away with ye. you'll be telling us they dont have bones in their noses or call us bwana next
                (\__/)
                (>'.'<)
                ("")("") Born to Drink. Forced to Work

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
                  well, we all know how reliable the findings of inquiries normally turn out to be.

                  But - if it makes you feel better, gives you a nice warm feeling inside because you've identified what you perceive to be a racist element to my post then let's leave it at that.
                  Well you contridicted yourself in your previous post unless you can show me the lines in the report which show that her guardian's believed in that stuff. Page and line number if you can be bothered

                  Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
                  Culture into which she was raised - She had West African guardians who believed all that hoodoo about demonic possessions etc.
                  merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
                    But - if it makes you feel better, gives you a nice warm feeling inside because you've identified what you perceive to be a racist element to my post then let's leave it at that.
                    I was, initially, racing the question of how you thought the Mikaeel Kular case could be an honor killing. You justified your original post with a reference to cultural murder and asked if VC case rang a bell - yes, it did, as another child cruelty case.

                    Note to self not to bother trying to engage in informed debates on your posts
                    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,it must be a duck

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Bellona View Post
                      I was, initially, racing the question of how you thought the Mikaeel Kular case could be an honor killing. You justified your original post with a reference to cultural murder and asked if VC case rang a bell - yes, it did, as another child cruelty case.

                      Note to self not to bother trying to engage in informed debates on your posts
                      Like I said, I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist over it. It's not a story I'm following TBH so let's just leave it at that.

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