Duggan verdict expected at 15:40

[DirtyDog]

FTFY

[vwdan]

Well, the inquest concluded he had the gun and that he threw it away, though the shooting remains a lawful killing - so I maintain my "no sympathy" stance on this one. Though I'd hope any failures on behalf of the Police will be investigated properly - I agree with the previous sentiments that the Met aren't the nicest bunch.

[Mich the Tester]

Inquest conclusions
1605: BREAKING NEWS Mark Duggan was lawfully killed in Tottenham in August 2011 a jury has concluded.

[SpontaneousOrder]

Well, the inquest concluded he had the gun and that he threw it away, though the shooting remains a lawful killing - so I maintain my "no sympathy" stance on this one. Though I'd hope any failures on behalf of the Police will be investigated properly - I agree with the previous sentiments that the Met aren't the nicest bunch.

If he did have a gun, and threw it away, then there was no requirement to shoot him. Those guys are supposed to be pros.

[SpontaneousOrder]

To be fair - he could look a bit brazillian in poor light.

[Mich the Tester]

If he did have a gun, and threw it away, then there was no requirement to shoot him. Those guys are supposed to be pros.

I don't know, but I do see something of a contradiction in these two points;

Questions for jury
1606: Danny Shaw Home affairs correspondent, BBC News The jury says Mark Duggan did not have a gun in his hand when he was shot.
Inquest conclusions
1605: BREAKING NEWS Mark Duggan was lawfully killed in Tottenham in August 2011, a jury has concluded.

[Mich the Tester]

To be fair - he could look a bit brazillian in poor light.

[vwdan]

If he did have a gun, and threw it away, then there was no requirement to shoot him. Those guys are supposed to be pros.

The jury accepted that the Police Officer honestly (And reasonably) believed that he had, and was reaching for, a weapon. At the time of the shooting, the Officer didn't know that he'd thrown the gun away. This doesn't seem unreasonable if you consider the dynamic nature of such a stop, and the intelligence that the Officer had.

[Mich the Tester]

The jury accepted that the Police Officer honestly (And reasonably) believed that he had, and was reaching for, a weapon. At the time of the shooting, the Officer didn't know that he'd thrown the gun away. This doesn't seem unreasonable if you consider the dynamic nature of such a stop, and the intelligence that the Officer had.

Fair enough as I can't imagine a Met officer having any intelligence at all. Bone from the neck up, the lot of them.

[vwdan]

Fair enough as I can't imagine a Met officer having any intelligence at all. Bone from the neck up, the lot of them.

Can't really disagree with that - I don't have much love for the Met, I just have even less for gun carrying criminals!