The strain on the NHS is caused by an ageing population not young immigrants who come in and hardly need any treatment.
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Shocking immigration hysteria
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Originally posted by Wanderer View PostNope, the NHS is there for people who live in the UK.
A lot of people (British or other nationalities) living in the UK don't pay enough tax to cover the cost of their healthcare. Should they be denied treatment on the NHS too?
If all the migrants they allowed in were highly skilled then it would drive your wages down. Do you want that?
We have a moral duty to support British citizens and give them a basic standard of living even if they pay little or no tax. That moral duty extends to foreign governments for foreigners, not the British government.
If highly skilled migrants come in this might drive down my wages a little. But it would also (assuming two-way immigration) generate more overseas working opportunities that I and other British skilled workers could use. Which would drive the wages back up a little as we leave.Comment
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View Post
If highly skilled migrants come in this might drive down my wages a little. But it would also (assuming two-way immigration) generate more overseas working opportunities that I and other British skilled workers could use. Which would drive the wages back up a little as we leave.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by doodab View PostIf you took all the immigrants out of the NHS I'd still be waiting for a bed. At least half the porters, healthcare assistants nurses and doctors have been immigrants, I had a German anesthesiologist an Indian surgeon and a polish guy to fit a drain that saved my life. Plenty of UK based folk as well, but the NHS needs immigrants badly at the moment.
What is the point in the NHS saving a few bob on cheaper overseas labour, when it will cost the state that much more providing state services for them themselves.Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostAnd how would you, or those others, pay for your healthcare overseas? Whatever your answer is, then so could those immigrants use the same method in the UK
Notice that many of the richest countries in the world are those that encourage the rich and successful to come to them to work and play. Britain should be aiming at that.Comment
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View PostWe have a moral duty to support British citizens and give them a basic standard of living even if they pay little or no tax. That moral duty extends to foreign governments for foreigners, not the British government.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View PostAnd they would have been british porters, healthcare assistants etc if the immigrants hadn't undercut them on pay rates, leaving British workers with no hope, and more importantly removing the incentive for our young to study hard for these professions, knowing that they won't be able to get jobs in them.
What is the point in the NHS saving a few bob on cheaper overseas labour, when it will cost the state that much more providing state services for them themselves.“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View PostWhy shouldn't the UK restrict itself to admitting only those whose net contribution to the UK state finances is positive, and that (assuming no fiscal deficit) is those who earn more than average, hence pay more tax than average.
This is incoherent rhetoric backed by a fuzzy minded approach to sums. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all. You quite literally don't make any ******* sense.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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Originally posted by darmstadt View PostIs Lord Rothemere, proprietor of the Daily Mail, a British citizen yet domiciled in France so that he doesn't have to pay tax in the UK (strange for a man who professes his love of Britain) entitled to NHS care? BTW, your last paragraph does not make an iota of sense...
Besides which, what proportion of your NICs actually ends up going towards the NHS (assuming it is a "national treasure blah blah blah")? They spend the money as they like.Last edited by Zero Liability; 4 January 2014, 17:08.Comment
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Originally posted by KentPhilip View PostAnd they would have been british porters, healthcare assistants etc if the immigrants hadn't undercut them on pay rates, leaving British workers with no hope, and more importantly removing the incentive for our young to study hard for these professions, knowing that they won't be able to get jobs in them.
What is the point in the NHS saving a few bob on cheaper overseas labour, when it will cost the state that much more providing state services for them themselves.While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'Comment
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