Big global warming meeting in Canada

[pjclarke]

2013 was a very bad year for "CAGW" the 17 year pause is the hot topic in every day conversations about global warming.

I notice that the website of Anthony Watts, 'WattsUpWithThat', self-styled 'the most widely read', with a constant sceptical and anti-science bias and the source of a lot of the disinformation copied here, had 1 million fewer page views in 2013 than 2012. A reverse hockey stick?

[pjclarke]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument

Just a reminder ...

[BlasterBates]

What climate change? Fewer people than EVER believe the world is really warming up | UK | News | Daily Express

The one thing we can be sure about is that "belief" in global warming is on the wane, which is a humiliating blow to people who believe in CAGW.

[EternalOptimist]

Looks like I was wrong about them landing that chopper on the ice. They landed on a makeshift helipad on moving ice kudos to those chinese pilots

looks like its all gone well so far, they are just evacuating the baggage right now

[Bunk]

You're at it again, aren't you? Deleting stuff?

He can't help it; tampering with evidence comes naturally to him.

[TykeMerc]

At least they've got the passengers off now, odds are the crew will have to sit it out without the benefits of press coverage.

Mind you since it's high summer in the Antarctic and the icebreakers couldn't get to the stranded vessel now I do wonder how they will recover it before it's nadgered by the ice pressure.

Maybe they will wait for the warmist lobby to head there en-mass and free it with their infinite quantity of hot air?

[EternalOptimist]

At least they've got the passengers off now, odds are the crew will have to sit it out without the benefits of press coverage.

Mind you since it's high summer in the Antarctic and the icebreakers couldn't get to the stranded vessel now I do wonder how they will recover it before it's nadgered by the ice pressure.

Maybe they will wait for the warmist lobby to head there en-mass and free it with their infinite quantity of hot air?

Apparently the ice is not 'fast' i.e. stuck to the land
so a change of wind direction will blow it out to sea and give more opportunities to the ice breakers.
It could also caused massive pressure that could breach the hull or roll it

spirit of Mawson my @rse. Mawson would have stayed behind with his men. Spirit of Gilligans Island more like

[pjclarke]

The one thing we can be sure about is that "belief" in global warming is on the wane, which is a humiliating blow to people who believe in CAGW.

At what point does humble AGW turn into CAGW? 2 degrees, 6 degrees? Another thing we can be sure about is that drawing conclusions from a tabloid account of a single report may well lead one astray; bizarrely public opinion on GW tends to be influenced by the weather with 'belief' waning after a cold winter. Which may tell you all you need to know about public opinion. Also, if you look at the primary source they found a solid majority believing that GW was real and partially or mainly manmade, Here's a similar poll for 'Carbon Brief' in August:-



and in the UKERC poll, although 19% indicated no belief in climate change, when the same people were asked what they think the causes of climate change are, only two per cent responded that there is "no such thing" as climate change.

People are wierd.

[pjclarke]

spirit of Mawson my @rse. Mawson would have stayed behind with his men

Yeah, Mawson was hardcore - lost two of his team in the name of science. Eejit. *




(*) This was meant ironically, apparently I need to spell this out for some readers.

[EternalOptimist]