RBS/NatWest IT Down

[oracleslave]

Careful, CK will have you on toast

I like toast with my bombay bad boy

[CoolerKing]

What the scraping of the natwest systems merging everyone on to the older but cheaper rbs systems isn't true?

What you said is certainly not true, and I should know really being part of the initial decision making team on which way to go?

As part of the RBS Middleware(CICS/DB2) production support team with an IMS background, I was part of the initial brain storming sessions to quantify the strategic pros and cons for both systems that being:
Sticking with Natwests Hierarchical DBMS(IMS/DLI/DBRC) or opting for RBS RDBMS (DB2) and CICS?
At the time of the discussion there were rumours that IBM were phasing out IMS therefore the decision was a no brainer.

[AtW]

What you said is certainly not true, and I should know really being part of the initial decision making team on which way to go?

As part of the RBS Middleware(CICS/DB2) production support team with an IMS background, I was part of the initial brain storming sessions to quantify the strategic pros and cons for both systems that being:
Sticking with Natwests Hierarchical DBMS(IMS/DLI/DBRC) or opting for RBS RDBMS (DB2) and CICS?
At the time of the discussion there were rumours that IBM were phasing out IMS therefore the decision was a no brainer.

So, it's basically your fault?

[minestrone]

All these IBM mainframe financials are diseased with backward idiots.

[bingobob]

What you said is certainly not true, and I should know really being part of the initial decision making team on which way to go?

As part of the RBS Middleware(CICS/DB2) production support team with an IMS background, I was part of the initial brain storming sessions to quantify the strategic pros and cons for both systems that being:
Sticking with Natwests Hierarchical DBMS(IMS/DLI/DBRC) or opting for RBS RDBMS (DB2) and CICS?
At the time of the discussion there were rumours that IBM were phasing out IMS therefore the decision was a no brainer.

DB2 and CICS are middleware? I think I see the problem here.

[CoolerKing]

DB2 and CICS are middleware? I think I see the problem here.

Yeah, clever set up, CICS/Production support DB2 DBA's/MQ all in the same department, Ah mean why would these guys want to talk to each other, go figure eh?

[alluvial]

Yeah, clever set up, CICS/Production support DB2 DBA's/MQ all in the same department, Ah mean why would these guys want to talk to each other, go figure eh?

By damn I can hear the arguements now.

[suityou01]

Quit the racism folks. It's more likely to be Suity wot done it.

Nah, it'll be lazy testing.

[darmstadt]

What you said is certainly not true, and I should know really being part of the initial decision making team on which way to go?

As part of the RBS Middleware(CICS/DB2) production support team with an IMS background, I was part of the initial brain storming sessions to quantify the strategic pros and cons for both systems that being:
Sticking with Natwests Hierarchical DBMS(IMS/DLI/DBRC) or opting for RBS RDBMS (DB2) and CICS?
At the time of the discussion there were rumours that IBM were phasing out IMS therefore the decision was a no brainer.

Ah rumours, thats a problem there. We just dropped CICS and moved everything to IMS this year and are expanding in that area. No ****-ups here...

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

The thing about banks is that nobody ever fixes anything, everyone seems to be working on something that is pinned to raising someone's profile in the bank. Systems get dragged all ways by year on year of "I need to do something to get promoted, I'll get in charge of this system, get the developers to bang in a bunch of inappropriate changes that the system was never in a million years designed to cope with then get my bonus and move on"

WHS 110%

This is exactly the kind of mentality that runs riot in our banks.