Bring back John Major

[DodgyAgent]

So they're statist and perhaps authoritarian? That's not at all the same thing as socialist, but I'm glad to have cleared that up for you.

The three go together in perfect harmony

[Old Greg]

The three go together in perfect harmony

But to state that a regime is statist and authoritarian does not make it socialist. Was the Shah of Iran a socialist?

Equally there are socialists that are not statist or authoritarian.

So can we have some clear thinking please? Why is the EU socialist?

[Mich the Tester]

So can we have some clear thinking please?

[Old Greg]

I hoped you'd get that one.

[MicrosoftBob]

But to state that a regime is statist and authoritarian does not make it socialist. Was the Shah of Iran a socialist?

Equally there are socialists that are not statist or authoritarian.

So can we have some clear thinking please? Why is the EU socialist?

Becauses its goal for the future is to build an socialist super-state

Even ignoring the politics, it's a load of empire building middle managers have tried to take over a continent, it's doomed to failure

It is a victim of parkinsons law

[Old Greg]

Becauses its goal for the future is to build an socialist super-state

Is this a stated goal or a secret goal?

[Mich the Tester]

Becauses its goal for the future is to build an socialist super-state

Says who?

[MicrosoftBob]

Is this a stated goal or a secret goal?

Hint the name European Union, rather than the Common Market

[Mich the Tester]

Hint the name European Union, rather than the Common Market

No, that doesn't answer the question. Who says the EU aims to create a socialist super state?

[Old Greg]

Hint the name European Union, rather than the Common Market

I think you're suggesting a super-state, but why a socialist super-state?