Greed is Good!

[vetran]

Because the 50 countries are not a population, they're a sample. All the countries in the world is the population. I think that's what Sas was trying to tell you. Not knowing those terms indicates that maybe you actually do need a bit more statistical expertise.

I'm sure I do need more statistical expertise. I was just trying to ask a question and make a point.

The 196 countries are a population.

We spoke about a sample of that small population.

Even if you looked at all 196 and tried to draw such a conclusion from them (like my US presidents analogy) very little would make sense because its too small a population to ask anything so general about except proven facts.

So in my Presidents Analogy 100% have been Male, 2.3% have been visibly Black but I'm not sure how you demonstrate that their attitude to X has affected Y as a whole without studying each individually and adding corrections for salient facts such as social mores at the time.

If people believe that you can do so then please explain why.

As I said more data would make it better.

appreciate your comments though my use of non specific words incorrectly could well have confused the congregation.

[sasguru]

I'm sure I do need more statistical expertise. I was just trying to ask a question and make a point.

The 196 countries are a population.

We spoke about a sample of that small population.

Even if you looked at all 196 and tried to draw such a conclusion from them (like my US presidents analogy) very little would make sense because its too small a population to ask anything so general about except proven facts.

So in my Presidents Analogy 100% have been Male, 2.3% have been visibly Black but I'm not sure how you demonstrate that their attitude to X has affected Y as a whole without studying each individually and adding corrections for salient facts such as social mores at the time.

If people believe that you can do so then please explain why.

As I said more data would make it better.

appreciate your comments though my use of non specific words incorrectly could well have confused the congregation.

Feck me it's even worse than I thought.
You're a prime example of why immigration is completely and utterly necessary.

[Old Greg]

Feck me it's even worse than I thought.
You're a prime example of why emigration is completely and utterly necessary.

FTFY

[Bunk]

FTFY

Well, it worked with Scooper

[lilelvis2000]

It is entirely logically possible for everyone to be equal to each other in terms of their worth as human beings. You may or may not agree that this is in fact the case.

If you mean that it is not logically possible for everyone to have an equal economic outcome, you are right. But nobody on the left has been aiming for that since utopian socialism went out of fashion in about 1830. KEEP UP!

Yeah I think he was going on about not just economic outcome but also social standing..since so much more of how people are measured is now coming down to wealth. Like "Sure he was a fine statesman, but he died penniless. So how good could he really have been? Oh god, and he lived in that tiny one room flat as well. tsk tsk tsk"

[AtW]

25 pages and you can't decide if greed is good or not?

I hope the suggestion that Boris is a cretin will stay unchallenged.

[SueEllen]

All I said was that

1. Correlation does not mean causation. If I wear a hat it doesn't mean its cold, it could be another reason such as fashion or I have lost my hair.
So below subsitence level poverty causing crime is justifiable. But he has more than me so I rob him probably means a poor justice system.

If correlation doesn't mean causation how does - "But he has more than me so I rob him probably means a poor justice system"?

There are other factors at play here.

[Old Greg]

25 pages and you can't decide if greed is good or not?

I hope the suggestion that Boris is a cretin will stay unchallenged.

Why? What's he said now?

[Old Greg]

If correlation doesn't mean causation how does - "But he has more than me so I rob him probably means a poor justice system"?

There are other factors at play here.

Don't do it, SueEllen.

[Old Greg]

This is fun:

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