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Britain hysterical over immigration

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    #41
    Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
    Re "studies showing that immigrants make a net contribution" yes but the political elite and journalistic classes are dominated by pro high levels of immigration types, the views of those with the opposite view have been suppressed using various mechanisms repeatedly. In these circumstance studies sponsored by the political and journalistic bubble are unlikely to be unbiased.
    Really? Are the Tories and UKIP suppressed? Are the Mail, Express and Telegraph suppressed?
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Jeff Maginty
      Can't believe the negativity being expressed about UKIP on here from some of you lot!

      Do you honestly mean to tell me that you still intend to vote for any of LibLabCon after the way they've run this country in recent years? Are you stupid?

      Please don't tell me that you're one of those "I refuse to vote because they're all tulipe!" types. By not voting at all you just allow the same old LibLabCon to get in and do as they please, which most likely won't be what suits ordinary folk like us who actually need to work for a living.
      I usually don't vote as they're all tulipe. I have made an exception to vote to keep the BNP out when they've stood a chance. I would possibly make a similar exception to keep UKIP out (not that I am equating the BNP and UKIP).

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        #43
        Originally posted by Churchill View Post
        Who I will vote for has fck all to do with you. Hth.
        Oops - you voted AndyW, didn't you?

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          #44
          Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
          Oops - you voted AndyW, didn't you?
          If your mum won't vote for you, who will?

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            #45
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            Really? Are the Tories and UKIP suppressed? Are the Mail, Express and Telegraph suppressed?
            And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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              #46
              Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
              Re "studies showing that immigrants make a net contribution" yes but the political elite and journalistic classes are dominated by pro high levels of immigration types, the views of those with the opposite view have been suppressed using various mechanisms repeatedly. In these circumstance studies sponsored by the political and journalistic bubble are unlikely to be unbiased.
              Very interesting article on this by David Aaronovitch in yesterdays security Times

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                #47
                Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                Re "studies showing that immigrants make a net contribution" yes but the political elite and journalistic classes are dominated by pro high levels of immigration types, the views of those with the opposite view have been suppressed using various mechanisms repeatedly. In these circumstance studies sponsored by the political and journalistic bubble are unlikely to be unbiased.
                The evidence came, in part, from a study by UCL:

                BBC News - Recent immigrants to UK 'make net contribution'

                If you think the study methodology was biased let us know how and why.
                That is the way science usually works.
                Otherwise I suspect that you won't let the the truth get in the way of your bias.
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                  ...the views of those with the opposite view have been suppressed using various mechanisms repeatedly.
                  Can you tell us more about the 'various mechanisms' please?
                  And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                    The evidence came, in part, from a study by UCL:

                    BBC News - Recent immigrants to UK 'make net contribution'

                    If you think the study methodology was biased let us know how and why.
                    That is the way science usually works.
                    Otherwise I suspect that you won't let the the truth get in the way of your bias.
                    It doesn't have to be obviously biased. It just has to be limited in scope without taking into consideration all factors that mass immigration will have an impact on. The bias then will be on the part of the people with agendas that can pick it up, wave it about shouting "See, see, I told you so!"

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by alluvial View Post
                      It doesn't have to be obviously biased. It just has to be limited in scope without taking into consideration all factors that mass immigration will have an impact on. The bias then will be on the part of the people with agendas that can pick it up, wave it about shouting "See, see, I told you so!"
                      I've read the article and they discuss the scope.
                      At least when you have a proper academic study you can have some facts to discuss in a debate which seems to me to be very emotional rather than fact based.
                      E.g. the OP claims that Indian workers get "special tax dispensations". Is this true? What and how do they work?
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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