The other side of the 'fence'

[Damon]

Devil is in the detail....PM's need to understand the initiative not just the financials...that sounds like managing up not the project

If there is someone to book meetings rooms great! If not, JFDI.

I find myself recording decisions and actions in meetings even if there is someone there to do it as they often don't quite 'get' the item

[psychocandy]

However!



I don't agree. I've had many an interview, my CV is seven pages.

7 pages. Really.

[scooterscot]

7 pages. Really.

Really. But I don't care to count pages. What's important is the content. Only agencies are interested in counting pages.

[original PM]

Devil is in the detail....PM's need to understand the initiative not just the financials...that sounds like managing up not the project

If there is someone to book meetings rooms great! If not, JFDI.

I find myself recording decisions and actions in meetings even if there is someone there to do it as they often don't quite 'get' the item

I agree - but the answer is actually no.

A PM should be able to follow a process that will deliver an project.

The PM then tailors their approach based on what the stakeholder/main sponsor wants.

In this case they want the project delivered but having 'control' of the financials is more important so we now have lots and lots of documents explaining why the project is failing!

Just political bullsh!t - trying to put a website live to sell a few items online - 18 months and 1.5 million later we still are not selling anything online and the proposed solution is so full of holes and bugs it is a joke.

[psychocandy]

Really. But I don't care to count pages. What's important is the content. Only agencies are interested in counting pages.

If it works for you great.

Not sure if agents count pages but they do get bored after 2/3 and stop reading.

[northernladuk]

If it works for you great.

Not sure if agents count pages but they do get bored after 2/3 and stop reading.

I would argue the first page if that. I would bet money 99 times out of a 100 the only time an agent gets to page 3 of anything is a certain tabloid paper they bring to work with them.

[Dallas]

Yep

any more than 2/3 pages and you are deemed inarticulate and arrogant, regardless of the 'I've been doing this for year' BS.

If you cant chop it down it is arrogant to suggest for the higher roles that someone has time to read past page 3 when they have a couple of hundred CVs to go through. I'd be weary of assigning a tight deadline to someone who needs 7 pages...

One agent told me - each CV has 6 seconds to wow, another dumps half in the bin before reading the rest.

[Damon]

I would argue the first page if that. I would bet money 99 times out of a 100 the only time an agent gets to page 3 of anything is a certain tabloid paper they bring to work with them.

Agreed.

I use page one for background, role summary and key word list so they match.

Page two is summary of last 5 years.

Page 3.......quiet at the back!....is just one liners to complete the role history on page one.

When recruiting I bin CV's over four pages long without looking at them and feed back to agent not to send them.