Red or white?

[oscarose]

Matt Gurney: Protesters need to learn history; the poppy is already a symbol of peace | National Post

"white poppy supports peace, while a red one glorifies war"

[SimonMac]

Its the same crap every year, although my biggest problem at the moment is the number of "vajazzled" poppies that have now become status sysmbols

[doodab]

Its the same crap every year, although my biggest problem at the moment is the number of "vajazzled" poppies that have now become status sysmbols

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[administrator]

I don't see the red ones as glorifying war, just a mark of respect for those who experienced things most of us can't imagine and many of whom gave their lives in defence of the freedom we have today. Ah, read it was a bunch of yank students the piece is about. Fsck them, ignorant winkers!

[Ticktock]

I'd wear a poppy without donating (if they were just made freely available to those who wanted to wear them), and I'd donate without taking a poppy. It has nothing to do with glorifying war, victory, killing or such-like.

To me, wearing the poppy shows that I'm in support of the work done by the RBL.
Donating is my way of hoping to help them to continue to do that work.


The RBL use the red poppy, so that's what I wear. I wear a paper one, as that's specifically the RBLs campaign symbol - if they want to sell pimped up poppies for more money then that's fine, but I do find it slightly objectional if people are wearing either real poppies or "jewellery" poppies and not donating at all. My perception is that they are then wearing them simply to fit in, rather than actually thinking about what it means.

I also find it slightly objectionable that people may feel pressured into wearing a poppy. Can you imagine the outcry if a newsreader or politician were seen without one, no matter what their personal opinion?

[DodgyAgent]

The ones who wear white poppies are more interested in the occasion being about them rather than those who died in war.

[Mich the Tester]

Bloody bad taste to attract attention to themselves at the expense of people who lost their lives; hold your campaign on any other day, but not on Remembrance day.


"To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven"

[Pogle]

Its the same crap every year, although my biggest problem at the moment is the number of "vajazzled" poppies that have now become status sysmbols

Is a vajazzled poppy, one that is pinned to a woman's 'ladies parts' ?
Doesn't sound very comfy or practical to me. I'll stick to the paper one on my lapel

[d000hg]

I don't see the red ones as glorifying war, just a mark of respect for those who experienced things most of us can't imagine and many of whom gave their lives in defence of the freedom we have today

Isn't the issue that the red one supports the principle of war in the first place, and white-wearers (while they may respect those who died) want to make it clear they do not condone war in the first place?

[Mich the Tester]

Isn't the issue that the red one supports the principle of war in the first place, and white-wearers (while they may respect those who died) want to make it clear they do not condone war in the first place?

I don't think the red one supports the principle of war; it simply recognises that tulip happens, and when tulip happens, some people are brave enough to risk their lives and some of them die.