Software Room 101

[Mich the Tester]

Nope it will just be a bug fix "patch" release (to introduce new bugs)

WHS


wot a heap of tulipe

[Mich the Tester]

If you sell a tool that 'supports multiple projects' then one of the most basic happy flow tests in your regression set must surely be 'verify that an object can be copied from one project to another'?

FFS, HP, get your bleeding act together or get your ******* useless tulipware out of my line of work.

[redgiant]

Here's the one bit of the HP QC saga that makes me giggle;

clientco keeps running out of licenses but they can't just buy one more license, no, HP's policy is to sell licenses in blocks of 25, for which umpty thousand euros are charged. So two weeks ago, clientco's 'Process Improvement Manager', who is a cretin, decided he should 'negotiate' a discount with HP because clientco is a 'major customer'.

I told him that I'd seen one of the world's biggest publishers as well as the US's biggest company trying to negotiate with HP and getting nowhere, so he would be doing very well to get any movement from them at all. I also told him his negotiating position was just about zero, because HP know quite well that clientco has tens of millions of euros of work tied up in QC and an automated migration to another tool is damn near impossible if you don't have the powers of the allegedly omnipotent creator of the universe. Of course, he didn't listen, called up the HP account managerman and 'discussed' the issue. Results; no discount, but HP managed to sell him on site support for a 6 figure sum that he now has to justify to the CTO, who is not impressed, seeing as it would be cheaper to just buy a load more licenses.

How can someone be so naïve? He genuinely thinks that clientco’s use of the full functionality of a tool for very large projects puts him in a good negotiating position! Can he really not see that it’s the other way around? No he can’t because he’s a permie who’s never had to worry about inconveniences like creditors, invoices and so on. But FFS, someone gave him a degree in ’management’!

+1. Seen a similar thing happen with QC licence procurement at a previous large retail clientco. It's quite common for this to happen as it justifies the procurement managers existence in appearing to negotiate better deals with suppliers where in reality it's the big suppliers that hold all the cards.

[Mich the Tester]

+1. Seen a similar thing happen with QC licence procurement at large retail clientco. It's quite common for this to happen as it justifies their existence in appearing to negotiate better deals with suppliers where in reality it's the big suppliers that hold all the cards.

Yep, and the clientcos then hand them even more cards.