This terrorist stuff in Kenya

[sasguru]

Lets face it, killing lots of people in a short space of time in the name of a cause is probably not that hard. I probably think there are not that many people that are off the scale fruit loop and the ones that are will probably be fairly thick and get spotted quite soon.

I disagree with that.
Many fanatics would score highly on an IQ test (which begs the question, what do such tests measure - not intelligence obviously).
I don't suppose the September 11 lot who learned to fly planes into a building were educationally subnormal.

[Old Hack]

Get through what? It's a shopping centre. There might have been one or two lightly armed security men at the front door, but not much more than that to get through.

Get through hiding their weapons, etc, etc

[sasguru]

The extremism that is found in Africa does seem to be unique in it's level of inhumanity though. .

Really? You ever heard of the holocaust or what the Germans did in Russia? And the Russians did back?
That's within living memory. People haven't had time to evolve since then.

[Mich the Tester]

The extremism that is found in Africa does seem to be unique in it's level of inhumanity though. A lot of wars in Africa must be at least partly to blame for this kind of stuff.

More inhumane than hacking a man to death on the street in London or blowing up commuter trains in Spain? One difference is this; in a Western city the trouble will often be over quite fast because police can get there quickly. In Nairobi, the police and army don't have as many helicopters to get around and they might have a long drive through nightmarish traffic in an immense city. Then they arrive in a great big shopping centre where there are lots of places to hide and it doesn't surprise me this can go on for days.

[amcdonald]

You got to survive if you could tell them who Muhammad's mother was, or quote the Qu'aran or say something in arabic.

If not you were slaughtered.

Has anyone in prominence in Islam come on record publicly and condemned this? I know David Cameron certainly did, and fair play to him, but I haven't seen anyone from Islamic circles. Of course this is most likely to do with the gutter trash press I read.

Al Shabaab commented on Twitter "only Kffar were singled out for this attack. All Muslims inside #Westgate were escorted out by ther Mujahideen before beginning the attack"

See theres the apology....


Meanwhile Cameron is being a western Dhimmi and being nieve as usual said "These appalling terrorist attacks that take place where the perpetrators claim they do it in the name of religion - they don't

They don't represent Islam or Muslims in Britain or anywhere else in the world"

Typical head in the sand moment from a western politician

Accept the religion of peace, and you will have peace that is their message

The truth is too hard to accept, so denial is the easiest path

[Mich the Tester]

Al Shabaab commented on Twitter "only Kffar were singled out for this attack. All Muslims inside #Westgate were escorted out by ther Mujahideen before beginning the attack"

They killed this bloke's muslim wife and daughter;
'The people who did this, they are animals': British businessman condemns terrorists who murdered his daughter - Telegraph

[amcdonald]

They killed this bloke's muslim wife and daughter;
'The people who did this, they are animals': British businessman condemns terrorists who murdered his daughter - Telegraph

Probably couldn't recite the right random quote and were executed then, note how he isn't condeming muslims for this as well directly in your quote...

[russell]

The sooner religion dies out the better.

[Mich the Tester]

Probably couldn't recite the right random quote and were executed then, note how he isn't condeming muslims for this as well directly in your quote...

Why should he condemn 'muslims' in general? Do you condemn catholics and protestants for what happened in Ireland? Do you condemn atheists for Stalin's purges?

[amcdonald]

Why should he condemn 'muslims' in general? Do you condemn catholics and protestants for what happened in Ireland? Do you condemn atheists for Stalin's purges?

Nice straw man but carry on

In context...

At the Khaybar Massacre and the birth of the battle cry Allahu Akbar, Mohammed's cousin asked why he meant to massacre the Jews

"Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger" he replied