Miranda nonsense

[AtW]

Again, how do you know? You don't think that details of how and which communications are intercepted would be of interest to terrorists who may be looking to plan an attack on the UK?

Given the background of this case I have 0% trust given to police actions that were motivated by anything other than the threat of terrorism. It's a clear abuse of legislation - it would not have been had they actually found something and charged him.

[Ticktock]

I hope the next time you fly they decide one of your farts might be useful to terrorists and see how you like it.

Like I said, I'm not saying I necessarily agree with what happened, but rather than just spewing forth my "**** the police, smash the system" views as some do, I'm instead trying to point out some facts and show where there are holes in arguements being made.
I'm not saying, for example,

He deserves to have electrodes attached to his nads.

As to me being stopped and detained... if that happened, yes I'd be pissed off (I don't want to miss a billable day, or one of my precious few days at home).
Without going and looking it up I don't know what, if any, justification has to be provided for a stop to happen. It could be "he looks a bit funny", it could be "we have verifiable intelligence". If I were stopped I'd look into this further, along with what oversight is provided, and whether my detention met the required conditions.
I wouldn't say (even if it were true) "My boyfriend is a journalist - how dare they stop me. I feel violated". Instead I would speak to a lawyer and see if I can wring enough cash out of them to fill out the warchest.

Of course, the papers wouldn't be interested in me being stopped, as I'm not going out with a journalist who is known to possess leaked security information, and carrying around his materials.

[lilelvis2000]

The Met do seem to have issues with Brazilian men with last names beginning with 'M' don't they. Last time the guy was shot 7 times and the Police covered it up with lies. This time the Home Office and No. 10 are covering up (or attempting to) their involvement with the USA.

The media is focusing on one case, but this happens every single day to some poor sod. Everyday some off-colour bloke is pulled aside and held. Not told why. Told he must answer every question or be chucked in jail - that would I suppose mean they are on British soil and could then demand rights. hmmmm. Their electronic devices are confiscated for 7 days...one wonders how this guy will collect them?

The genius of law, interpreted by men who only have worst intentions at heart.


Does make the UK look like an unsafe place to transit. Perhaps Heathrow won't need to be expanded after all?

[AtW]

Does make the UK look like an unsafe place to transit. Perhaps Heathrow won't need to be expanded after all?

It might need to be if they keep detaining people to question them for 9 hours

[Ticktock]

Given the background of this case I have 0% trust given to police actions that were motivated by anything other than the threat of terrorism. It's a clear abuse of legislation - it would not have been had they actually found something and charged him.

They haven't said whether they have found anything yet. I know that Miranda's lawyers were looking to get an injunction to prevent them from examining the materials they seized from him, but I don't know whether they'd just go ahead and look anyway, or wait until a court ruled one way or the other.

I think a bigger issue is the trust the public have in the police. I'm in two minds. On one hand I believe that the security services in general do try to protect the country. On the other I'm sure that they do (and have) abused the powers they have - either with an attitude of "the ends justify the means", or for political advancement, or other reasons.

[AtW]

I think a bigger issue is the trust the public have in the police.

My issue is that there is a law that works very differently in Heathrow's transit zone in regards to due processs that is normal outside of Heathrow. That should have never happened in the first place.

[minestrone]

Could he not just have told them to **** off for 9 hours. Seems fairly obvious.

[AtW]

Could he not just have told them to **** off for 9 hours. Seems fairly obvious.

He was allegedly threatened with prison if he won't answer questions. Where is Human Rights Act now with provisions that nobody can be forced to self incriminate themselves?

[BrilloPad]

He was allegedly threatened with prison if he won't answer questions. Where is Human Rights Act now with provisions that nobody can be forced to self incriminate themselves?

Everyone should know you say NOTHING. If not they get what they deserve.

[darmstadt]

They haven't said whether they have found anything yet.

This is what got me a couple of days ago. Listening on the radio, some ****wit American expert on terrorism (some ex-chief of something or other) categorically stated that he had secret NSA files on him, how the **** does he know? Then a little while later, the Daily ****mail was also spouting this nonsense...(BTW, go to their website, stick in Miranda in their search and all you get is TV & Showbiz bollocks, shows where their sense of news is, moronic cretins)