Faff off

[CoolCat]

+1.

You would think as the profession got more mature the success rate of projects would increase. Seems to be the opposite though. I blame to way government treats IT professionals whgich leads of lack of people wanting to take it up as a career, offshoring, etcetc.

Its also other stuff. The British Computer Society has been really bad for the profession giving credibility to some real clowns and failing to listen to people who really understand the business. The universitys often cosy up with the wrong people in industry, and give professorships to the biggest idiots in the profession and so on. The big IT consultancies promote sales and political ability over delivery and substance ability. And so on and so on.

[DimPrawn]

I reckon we should send Melinda and Dominic to sort suity out.

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[BrilloPad]

Its also other stuff. The British Computer Society has been really bad for the profession giving credibility to some real clowns and failing to listen to people who really understand the business. The universitys often cosy up with the wrong people in industry, and give professorships to the biggest idiots in the profession and so on. The big IT consultancies promote sales and political ability over delivery and substance ability. And so on and so on.

I have to agree with this. Look at Malvolio being a director of the PCG. You just could not make it up.

[aussielong]

Pay people top dollar and you will have more successes.

Top dollar attracts top talent, and top people get hard stuff done.

That's why in the top investment banks I see less failed projects. Top performers getting paid top dollar.

That's why I always ask for a top rate. I price myself out of these miserable failures that Suity works on.

[doodab]

Its also other stuff. The British Computer Society has been really bad for the profession giving credibility to some real clowns and failing to listen to people who really understand the business. The universitys often cosy up with the wrong people in industry, and give professorships to the biggest idiots in the profession and so on. The big IT consultancies promote sales and political ability over delivery and substance ability. And so on and so on.

In all my years in IT I have never met anyone who admits to being a member of the BCS. I joined the ACM & IEEE instead.

[DimPrawn]

BCS = British Cretin Society

[sasguru]

BCS = British Cretin Society

Feck me, I agree with Dim.

BCS screams out "pedantic, probably bearded, probably sandalled, probably patterned jumper, mediocrity".
When I was hiring, anyone with BCS on their CV was binned immediately*

*actually I was a little more objective than that but it was obvious that the best people are NOT in the BCS.

[bobspud]

IT is a gold rush. We all want into the next great thing but few rarely obtain a competent skill in what they do today before moving on to tomorrows skill.

Suity gets the butt of the jokes here but I doubt he is the only board member that is watching this crap he's just one of the few that has the guts to vent it.

Most of the issues I have seen come when a company gives a job to an aspiring permie on the hope that they can handle it. This will rarely end well because the permie has no intention of going back to their boss and saying whoops I screwed this up, because they view it as their one chance up the ladder. So thats why every IT project has some form of scene from the gremlins in the middle of it while various factions fight not to be caught being dumb...

The B.A is the worst role on the planet:
They have the wonderful job of Asking someone who doesn't understand the concept of requirements, to elucidate their needs in free flowing english. Then taking the drivel that they have virtually beaten out of the user to an architect and expect to get more than just the usual "WFT is this what are you trying to tell me? now do it properly" No one wants to spend the time on requirements because they are boring and don't really look like progress...

I rarely see a B.A that enjoys their life...

[sasguru]

I rarely see a B.A that enjoys their life...

Most are too thick to move on and do something else too. That's why they get the tulip

[amcdonald]

In all my years in IT I have never met anyone who admits to being a member of the BCS. I joined the ACM & IEEE instead.

There's a lot of members in the public sector