Client wants to make me permie

[amcdonald]

One good delaying tactic is say that your wife likes you working away from home, so that you're going to need some time to sell her the benefits of going permanent

Something that sounds convincing but is utter tulip, in other words agent speak

[eek]

Surely the money hit won't be as bad now you are clearly inside IR35 as the role is enduring enough to be offered to be permies and you are the one he picked? Might be able to get a better package permie than your inside IR35 renumeration?

I role being enduring enough to offer to permies does not make it IR35 fodder. Most contracts could be done by permies but management want others to do them because they either don't have the permies or don't have permies of good enough quality.

[LondonTube]

Surely the money hit won't be as bad now you are clearly inside IR35 as the role is enduring enough to be offered to be permies and you are the one he picked? Might be able to get a better package permie than your inside IR35 renumeration?

Well, that is not really a problem. I am not in the UK and I have become tax resident on this country (I do not commute to London... I moved here). This country does not have such humongous taxes as the UK and I work here under an umbrella company.

Even with that, I take home 70% of my earnings, with no worries about invoicing, taxes, social security charges and so on... So well, yes, even if something like IR35 existed here I am already under it with my umbrella, but it is not so tax-unefficient as it would be in the UK and I have a more relaxed life. My umbrella company pays me as soon as they get the timesheets, even if they get paid later by the Agency, etc... in this sense I have a real peace of mind with payments

This is, btw, something that I also like here... as soon as I go back to the UK I have to choose between paying taxes as a permie (no way!) or deal with a limited company. I do not think I would fall into IR35 with exactly the same role in the UK.

Also the Agency has something to say about this. I think that the consultancy company would convince them, since I think they move a lot of contracts, but this would be also another issue to deal with for going permie.

[psychocandy]

If they're serious then surely its all about the package offered?