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Why dont we have articles like this in the British press?

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    #21
    >1 Indian nationals here on ICT visas get to work the first 12 months free of employers and employees national insurance, >not very hard to undercut Brits with this regime in place is it?

    No it isn't.

    >2 Indian nationals get to count lots as "expenses" which a Brit working far away from home within the UK cannot, so if I >live in London but work in Glasgow I am at a significant disadvantage to someone working in Glasgow from India - why?

    But you can claim expenses if you went to India, I've worked abroad a reasonable amount and done so.
    I'm not sure this counts as much of an advantage, living away from home is usually far more expensive, so although there is some advantage, I'm not sure it is much.


    >3 If you think the tax avoidance of Amazon, Google, Starbucks justify questions try having a look at the tax affairs of >Cognizant, Infosys, Tata, et al.
    yes, good point.

    4 Any idea how many people are on the UK payroll of Cognizant, Infosys, Wipro, etc ? Any idea what percentage are ICT visa holder (or holders of indefinite leave to remain or British passports given simply for working here a while?) Any idea how many are subcontracted onto other organisations and not really working for their parent company (in the spirit Intra Company Visas were actually designed for).

    No, perhaps I should try some FOIAs, however given this is info about a specific firm, may not get it.

    >5 any idea how many Indian owners of Indian IT outsourcing outfits are on Camerons "business advisory committee"? >Compare and contrast to the number of British IT leaders?

    Who are these "British IT leaders" of which you speak ?
    My 12 year old is walking 26 miles for Cardiac Risk in the Young, you can sponsor him here

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      #22
      Originally posted by Dominic Connor View Post

      Who are these "British IT leaders" of which you speak ?
      We gave the world ITIL and PRINCE2, someone somewhere must count as a leader.
      While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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        #23
        Originally posted by Dominic Connor View Post
        Who are these "British IT leaders" of which you speak ?
        Alan Sugar? Clive Sinclair? The IT management at RBS?
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #24
          >2 Indian nationals get to count lots as "expenses" which a Brit working far away from home within the UK cannot, so if I >live in London but work in Glasgow I am at a significant disadvantage to someone working in Glasgow from India - why?

          But you can claim expenses if you went to India, I've worked abroad a reasonable amount and done so.
          I'm not sure this counts as much of an advantage, living away from home is usually far more expensive, so although there is some advantage, I'm not sure it is much.

          much of their wages are given as 'living allowances' the firm organises accommodation & food for them then charges them accordingly. They can cut wage costs by 50% when a western firm would pay that for their employees.

          ......


          4 Any idea how many people are on the UK payroll of Cognizant, Infosys, Wipro, etc ? Any idea what percentage are ICT visa holder (or holders of indefinite leave to remain or British passports given simply for working here a while?) Any idea how many are subcontracted onto other organisations and not really working for their parent company (in the spirit Intra Company Visas were actually designed for).

          No, perhaps I should try some FOIAs, however given this is info about a specific firm, may not get it.

          precedent in here :

          Two thirds of intra-company transfer visas go to IT staff | Information Age

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            #25
            Originally posted by doodab View Post
            We gave the world ITIL and PRINCE2, someone somewhere must count as a leader.
            And then sold them (or at least ITIL) onto to Crapita...
            "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
            - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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              #26
              Re "But you can claim expenses if you went to India"

              Yes I know. It is the wide and numerous things they can count as "expenses" and therefore not pay tax and National Insurance which is outrageous.

              Re "No, perhaps I should try some FOIAs"

              There are at least 2000 on Cognizants UK payroll probably over 3000, and their offices only have room for max a few hundred staff, all the rest are on client sites breaking the spirit of their visas.

              etc

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                #27
                Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                Yes I know. It is the wide and numerous things they can count as "expenses" and therefore not pay tax and National Insurance which is outrageous.
                are we still talking about Indians or have we moved on to dissing contractors?
                Coffee's for closers

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                  #28
                  While you are doing your freedom of info requests here are a few more to try:
                  To the NHS – how many inpatients in the last 12 months were in the country as family members accompanying an ICT visa holder? What is the average length of time between them arriving in the country and being admitted to hospital? Ie how many come over specifically because they are already seriously ill to get free treatment out of the NHS…
                  To the dept of Education – how many children of ICT visa holders are currently in schools getting free schooling? Especially around ICT hotspots like the M4 corridor, and BT Ipswich etc? How many are crowding out the best schools while local parents children get displaced into the less popular schools?
                  Or how about looking at the number of Indian nationals registered to vote in some marginal constituencies? Start with those only here on a work visa, or family member of same. You will see their votes more than swing some marginal constituencies. Compare and contrast to how hard it is for a Brit to work in India and to register to vote, or get schooling or medical treatment for their family, if they do.
                  And so on

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                    #29
                    A summer holiday for some members of CUK?
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CoolCat View Post
                      While you are doing your freedom of info requests here are a few more to try:
                      To the NHS – how many inpatients in the last 12 months were in the country as family members accompanying an ICT visa holder? What is the average length of time between them arriving in the country and being admitted to hospital? Ie how many come over specifically because they are already seriously ill to get free treatment out of the NHS…
                      To the dept of Education – how many children of ICT visa holders are currently in schools getting free schooling? Especially around ICT hotspots like the M4 corridor, and BT Ipswich etc? How many are crowding out the best schools while local parents children get displaced into the less popular schools?
                      Or how about looking at the number of Indian nationals registered to vote in some marginal constituencies? Start with those only here on a work visa, or family member of same. You will see their votes more than swing some marginal constituencies. Compare and contrast to how hard it is for a Brit to work in India and to register to vote, or get schooling or medical treatment for their family, if they do.
                      And so on
                      Half your questions will not get an answer due to the way you have written them.

                      Previous questions on this site gives you some guidance on how to phrase your questions to get a proper answer.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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