Woolwich Incident

[KentPhilip]

That woman was bloody brave. I could not have done it.

Brave yes, but also stupid. By talking to them she could have been killed. The only people who should have tackled them was a group of strong people who could have overpowered them.

[Old Greg]

Well, I wouldn't say those guys are entirely healthy in the upstairs department. Perhaps it's the combination of radical Islam and mental problems. We all know muslims who wouldn't consider doing this, and we all know slightly loony people who wouldn't do something like this. Maybe the combination is the problem.

I think it's. a combination of radical whatever and mental health problems. Look at Timothy McVeigh and the guy in Norway.

Edit: should have added. And all combined with being male.

[Mich the Tester]

I think it's. a combination of radical whatever and mental health problems. Look at Timothy McVeigh and the guy in Norway.

Yep. But I sometimes wonder if political/religious extremism itself is a mental health problem.

[SimonMac]

Brave yes, but also stupid. By talking to them she could have been killed. The only people who should have tackled them was a group of strong people who could have overpowered them.

Remind me not to ask you to do hostage negotiation!

[Old Hack]

Did you listen to the news clip? They sounded English to me.

Sounded like Hackney folk to me.

Credit to the woman who went up and talked to them. Unarmed, approached two guys with guns and axes who'd just hacked a man to death. That's real courage. Some young thugs could learn something from her.

They shouted that only women could approach them, so I think she thought she'd be ok. Still mighty brave. Braver than the 1000's who were videoing going on. I'd like to think I couldn't watch that kind of thing happening and film it.

Was this guy SAS or someone with medals from duty in Afganistan something and specifically targetted or just a random squaddie in the wrong place at the wrong time?

I think he was defintely something as they are saying he was 'seconded' or something, which indicates it wasn't his normal gaff, although that could mean other things too.

Allalah Akbal or something I believe they said.

[SimonMac]

I think it's. a combination of radical whatever and mental health problems. Look at Timothy McVeigh and the guy in Norway.

Edit: should have added. And all combined with being male.

The only common denominator is relegion.

Reminds me from the scene from Dogma:

Rufus: His only real beef with mankind is the tulip that gets carried out in His name. Wars, bigotry, televangelism. The big one, though, is the fractioning of all of the religions. He said mankind got it all wrong by taking a good idea and building a belief structure on it.
Bethany: You’re saying having beliefs is a bad thing?
Rufus: I just think it’s better to have ideas. I mean, you can change an idea, changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it. The whole of existence is in jeopardy right now, because of the Catholic belief structure regarding this plenary indulgence bulltulip. Bartleby and Loki, whether they know it or not, are exploiting that belief. And if they’re successful, you, me… ALL of this ends in a heartbeat, all over a belief.

[SimonMac]

Sounded like Hackney folk to me.



They shouted that only women could approach them, so I think she thought she'd be ok. Still mighty brave. Braver than the 1000's who were videoing going on. I'd like to think I couldn't watch that kind of thing happening and film it.



I think he was defintely something as they are saying he was 'seconded' or something, which indicates it wasn't his normal gaff, although that could mean other things too.

Allalah Akbal or something I believe they said.

Allāhu Akbar, which basically means God is Great

[Old Greg]

Yep. But I sometimes wonder if political/religious extremism itself is a mental health problem.

I'm a political extremist but am perfectly mentally balanced.

[Bunk]

Of course the news did not show the murderer waffle on about Islam, all of them made sure to cut that out. I am sure quite soon we will hear that this will be blamed on mental illness. Anything to keep control.

Would you rather it started a campaign of tit-for-tat attacks?

[Old Greg]

The only common denominator is relegion.

Reminds me from the scene from Dogma:

What about the guy who blew up the Admiral Duncan and other targets associated with ethnic minority groups? American school massacres?

An important common denominator is maleness.