Cash for honours - the 1st arrest

[xoggoth]

I think it's a matter of how things are said. On immigration for example, there is no need for politicians to get into slanging matches or start immigrant bashing which is sure to annoy British minorities of the same background. A lot of Hague's stuff was rather negative, I am sure it could have been handled much better.

Just announce policies in terms that it is difficult for anyone to disagree with: reasonable numbers, tighter border controls to prevent illegal entry, much tighter checks on individuals to ensure no criminal record, significant positive economic contribution, English speaking and willingness to fit in with British culture and accept British laws.

Refuse to rise to the lefty bait and start pointing out all the appalling consequences of recent immigration. There is simply no need, most people can see that for themselves.

[snaw]

You're a moron.
My life is fine thank you very much.
I do pretty well, thank you very much.
I am aware of how fortunate I am.
I also work hard.
I also disbelieve anything said by any politician. ANY politician.
Your left-wing darlings are destroying the future of the people who they pretend to be helping. Not me, and not my future. The people they are pretending to be helping. You're a collaborator because you should know better, if you claim to have any intelligence. Admittedly I'm presuming there.

Well if you want to get personal great. You're a sad excuse for a human being and I'd love to see you walk around in real life calling other people you don't approve of vermin. But you don't I suspect, because without the screen of an anonymous BB you don't have the balls to voice your opinions.

I wasn't commenting on how hard you work and I couldn't give a feck about how well you do, but since we're there, me to. So fecking what?

I'd bet the people living in Islington you critisise are similar in their well being and work habits but they don't count since they don't fall in line with your politics - newsflash we live in a democracy. You're future is also everyone else's and if enough people don't like it then they'll vote for a change in government. Until they do then you have to accept it the samew way people in Scotland had to accept god knows how many years of Tory rule (BTW Dundee George - you voice these opinions in your home town much or your name a misnomer?), while Mrs T fecked that part of the country over and eradicated any future support for the Tory party there.

I didn't vote for this shower either and I don't trust politicians much, but I do take great offence at your classification of a whole group of society as vermin, and anyone who might actually have some compassion for their fellow man as also being vermin, and to top it off your self rightous tulipe about destroying the future of those they're supposed to be helping. Gies a break, and stop rolling out this right wing bollox without some justification cause I don't see any society, at any time in history where leaving the poorest and weakest to their own means didn't end in complete and utter misery for lot's of people.

[wendigo100]

Weren't the first major strikes and 3 day weeks under Ted Heath?

Yes they were, which illustrates my point.

He tried to curtail the power of the unions and it got rough. So what did the electorate do? Voted Labour back in. Things needed to get a lot worse before the electorate realised there was a serious problem.

[BobTheCrate]

I understand your sentiments Wendigo.

BUT. The Tories have lost 3 general elections. Can you be that confident the electorate would ever realise before the main opposition collapsed as a serious political party ?

[lORD lUCAN]

PS, how can you say the AMG SLK is a "girls car"?

Might aswell buy a TT, same same but different, clippers included.

[wendigo100]

I understand your sentiments Wendigo.

BUT. The Tories have lost 3 general elections. Can you be that confident the electorate would ever realise before the main opposition collapsed as a serious political party ?

We shouldn't get carried away. Such a collapse will not happen.

It didn't happen to the Labour party in the eighties and nineties. Eventually they changed their strategy to telling voters what they want to hear, regardless of far from reality it was, and carrying out their business on the quiet.

The Tories now seemed to be doing the same thing.

[Xena]

Don't forget, given the current boundaries the Electoral Commission says it's virtually impossible for a Labour government not to be returned at the next general election. Labour would still have an outright majority in the commons even if they polled 1% less of the vote than the Tories.

[vista]

B0 ll0 cks

Funny that, I reckon he's your best chance of getting a win in a very long time. The natural tory vote is increasingly pensionable and the past tory policies/politicians got them nowwhere. Like it or not if you're gonna win you have to appeal to a wider audience and I think he's starting to do that (He's the first tory leader I'd even spend 2s considering to give my vote to).

Get back in your box & shut the f v ck up!

[Dundeegeorge]

Do you hear a lot of whooshing noises at all?

Well if you want to get personal great. You're a sad excuse for a human being and I'd love to see you walk around in real life calling other people you don't approve of vermin. But you don't I suspect, because without the screen of an anonymous BB you don't have the balls to voice your opinions.

I wasn't commenting on how hard you work and I couldn't give a feck about how well you do, but since we're there, me to. So fecking what?

I'd bet the people living in Islington you critisise are similar in their well being and work habits but they don't count since they don't fall in line with your politics - newsflash we live in a democracy. You're future is also everyone else's and if enough people don't like it then they'll vote for a change in government. Until they do then you have to accept it the samew way people in Scotland had to accept god knows how many years of Tory rule (BTW Dundee George - you voice these opinions in your home town much or your name a misnomer?), while Mrs T fecked that part of the country over and eradicated any future support for the Tory party there.

I didn't vote for this shower either and I don't trust politicians much, but I do take great offence at your classification of a whole group of society as vermin, and anyone who might actually have some compassion for their fellow man as also being vermin, and to top it off your self rightous tulipe about destroying the future of those they're supposed to be helping. Gies a break, and stop rolling out this right wing bollox without some justification cause I don't see any society, at any time in history where leaving the poorest and weakest to their own means didn't end in complete and utter misery for lot's of people.

That would be stuff rushing way way way over your head.
I will say it simply and slowly for you.
I loathe, hate, abhor, hold in contempt socialists and their ilk because the people who they claim to be helping are the people who they are keeping under control, in order that they can stay in power by pretending to help them.
I pointed out the fact that I was doing OK (FFS this is a contractors' site, nobody on here should be having problems) not to boast but to demonstrate that NL don't really make that much of an impact on my life (I'm aware of your viewpoint often implied as well as occasionally expressed that all we ever do on this board is moan about high taxes, and of course you just see it as the well-off bitching about paying taxes) and that my hatred for them is idealogical, and frankly I have no idea why the left-wing don't loathe them equally because they're not even socialist, they're opportunist vermin.
As to my categorising a whole class of people as vermin, I believe I'm perfectly entitlled to view the parasitic scumbags in Parliament as vermin, and a number of the underclass have no function within society other than to cost it money. You left wingers are always happy to accept that there is such a thing as society when it comes to handing out somebody else's money, but society isn't allowed to protect itself because it breaches the human rights of someone who cares less than nothing for anybody else within that society.
I choose not to pick up the Scotland argument.
Compassion for your fellow man, priceless, yes throw the poor a few scraps to keep them in fags and beer, but don't educate them to better themselves after all they're not capable you know, they're just a burden we nobly bear.
Left-wing fascistic control-freakery, and you even get to feel good about yourself. Tossers, the lot of them.

[vista]

Look

That would be stuff rushing way way way over your head.
I will say it simply and slowly for you.
I loathe, hate, abhor, hold in contempt socialists and their ilk because the people who they claim to be helping are the people who they are keeping under control, in order that they can stay in power by pretending to help them.
I pointed out the fact that I was doing OK (FFS this is a contractors' site, nobody on here should be having problems) not to boast but to demonstrate that NL don't really make that much of an impact on my life (I'm aware of your viewpoint often implied as well as occasionally expressed that all we ever do on this board is moan about high taxes, and of course you just see it as the well-off bitching about paying taxes) and that my hatred for them is idealogical, and frankly I have no idea why the left-wing don't loathe them equally because they're not even socialist, they're opportunist vermin.
As to my categorising a whole class of people as vermin, I believe I'm perfectly entitlled to view the parasitic scumbags in Parliament as vermin, and a number of the underclass have no function within society other than to cost it money. You left wingers are always happy to accept that there is such a thing as society when it comes to handing out somebody else's money, but society isn't allowed to protect itself because it breaches the human rights of someone who cares less than nothing for anybody else within that society.
I choose not to pick up the Scotland argument.
Compassion for your fellow man, priceless, yes throw the poor a few scraps to keep them in fags and beer, but don't educate them to better themselves after all they're not capable you know, they're just a burden we nobly bear.
Left-wing fascistic control-freakery, and you even get to feel good about yourself. Tossers, the lot of them.

It's an insane c V nt and replying to anything it says beyond one line of abuse is just encouraging it.