Cash for honours - the 1st arrest

[wendigo100]

What's the point of replacing an unprincipled government with another one? ... (snip)

It depends what's in it for me.

[Dundeegeorge]

Oh I can tell you that now

It depends what's in it for me.

More tax, less public services, more crime, more people in the country.
Next (as our little gender-confused Sas might say)

[mcquiggd]

Apparently 'Lord Sainsbury' has been questioned now as well...

How long before Tony gets a visit I wonder...??


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Since 1997, everyone who has donated more than 1 million pounds to Labour has been made either a knight or a member of the Lords, according to the Power Inquiry, a probe into changes in U.K. democracy funded by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust, a Quaker charity campaigning for social justice. The report was published in February.
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[snaw]

home of the champagne socialists, the chattering classes, those who know what's best for everybody else.
Those whom others call left-wing control-freak verminous b*stards.

Riiight, those guys - anyone to the left of Attila the Hun basically... Well na, I don't live there but I'm sure it'd be a hell of a lot more fun than whichever gated fortress you call home.

[DimPrawn]

"Since 1997, everyone who has donated more than 1 million pounds to Labour has been made either a knight or a member of the Lords, according to the Power Inquiry, a probe into changes in U.K. democracy funded by the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust, a Quaker charity campaigning for social justice. The report was published in February.
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How ****ed off are those that donated £900,000 feeling?

[Dundeegeorge]

Snaw

Riiight, those guys - anyone to the left of Attila the Hun basically... Well na, I don't live there but I'm sure it'd be a hell of a lot more fun than whichever gated fortress you call home.

You're a moron.
My life is fine thank you very much.
I do pretty well, thank you very much.
I am aware of how fortunate I am.
I also work hard.
I also disbelieve anything said by any politician. ANY politician.
Your left-wing darlings are destroying the future of the people who they pretend to be helping. Not me, and not my future. The people they are pretending to be helping. You're a collaborator because you should know better, if you claim to have any intelligence. Admittedly I'm presuming there.

[wendigo100]

It depends what's in it for me.

More tax, less public services, more crime, more people in the country.

A fair point, they are the trends.

Cast your mind back to 1979, when the UK was in a similarly bad state. What happened? It took near-bankrupcy of the country, high unemployment and the winter of discontent to wake people up and admit that we might have a problem. Only then did we change the government, and it took many years to get the UK back on track.

So the options for the opposition are:

1. Let things run as they are for the next 10 years, shouting from the sidelines while the UK slides well and truly into the sh1t again

2. Say what voters want to hear and get elected earlier

[Dundeegeorge]

Wendigo

A fair point, they are the trends.

Cast your mind back to 1979, when the UK was in a similarly bad state. What happened? It took near-bankrupcy of the country, high unemployment and the winter of discontent to wake people up and admit that we might have a problem. Only then did we change the government, and it took many years to get the UK back on track.

So the options for the opposition are:

1. Let things run as they are for the next 10 years, shouting from the sidelines while the UK slides well and truly into the sh1t again

2. Say what voters want to hear and get elected earlier

In the late 70's we were very fortunate to have The Iron Lady (unless you happened to be unfortunate enough to let arthur Scargill represent you).
It is my opinion (and if it's only mine that still doesn't make it wrong) that David (so what is a principle again?) Cameron doesn't have the intelligence, the drive or the cohones of Mrs. T. You may think that he's spouting this crap to get elected and he will then suddenly somehow transform into the kind of leader required, but I don't. Nothing he has said (NOTHING) presuades me that he will do that. I would be pleased to be proved wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Bagpuss]

A fair point, they are the trends.

Cast your mind back to 1979, when the UK was in a similarly bad state. What happened? It took near-bankrupcy of the country, high unemployment and the winter of discontent to wake people up and admit that we might have a problem. Only then did we change the government, and it took many years to get the UK back on track.

Weren't the first major strikes and 3 day weeks under Ted Heath?

[BobTheCrate]

I fear you could be right DG but hope you're not.

And if you are, then to my mind this demonstrates that David Cameron is basically the product of the British electorate.

The Tories understandably feel as a party, they could not afford another mauling in a General Election.

Many of us are sympathetic to the view that as a country we're over taxed, over regulated, over observed, over tolererant of criminals, and too many immigrants over here.

The Tories gave the electorate the choice to do something about these things in 2001 and 2005. The country chose not to for a 2nd time in 2005.

Result : David Cameron.