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    #71
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    I worked in Calverton in Nottingham in 1978 -1980 and I knew most of the teachers at the local school. The children were great. Even though they were from mining families they were well educated and today they have blossoming careers in call centres
    I assume that is tongue in cheek.....

    On another note I was listening to Radio 2 and one guy was on about how he went to see some union leaders/shop stewards and asked them about their business plan....

    He was laughed out of the room - it seems that the management of certain unionised industries had to try and market whatever the shop stewards deemed was going to be produced - regardless of whether it was marketable or not.

    Almost seemed that the unions/shop stewards could not see the relationship between a productive workforce creating a marketable product and there fore creating a viable long term business plan which would go on to create longer term job security. They seemed to think that company existed to give them jobs.

    Probably another side to that story too I suppose.

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      #72
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      what else should she have done? The unions only wanted to fight her and give away nothing so they were not about to agree any compromises.
      She actually started out quite conciliatory toward the unions, compromising with the nurses and prepared to compromise with the miners. It's only when Scargill and co. decided they'd try and bring the government to its knees that she really became quite ruthless. The NUM had to be broken as it had brought down governments before and was rabidly left wing, and if an industry had to close to do it, then so be it. Even Neil Kinnock recognizes that if there's one person to blame for the mining industry being closed down, it's Arthur Scargill.
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #73
        rumour also has it that during that period of the miner strikes the biggest spy/bugging operation since world war two was in place - e.g. the NUM phones were tapped, offices bugged etc...

        probably not playing fair but hey so be it.

        may just be an urban myth that though

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          #74
          Originally posted by original PM View Post
          rumour also has it that during that period of the miner strikes the biggest spy/bugging operation since world war two was in place - e.g. the NUM phones were tapped, offices bugged etc...

          probably not playing fair but hey so be it.

          may just be an urban myth that though
          Rumour also has it that Scargill asked the USSR and Colonel Gaddafi to fund the miners strike.

          probably not playing fair but hey so be it.

          may just be an urban myth that though
          And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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            #75
            I for one am happy with the opportunities afforded to me my Maggie. I'm happy that I went to Uni, that I got a job in the city when I left, that I was able to afford to buy property, I told Sid when I saw him and bought those to, drunk in wine bars, had a briefcase, flash suit, low tax etc.

            I am one of Thatchers children and I'm proud to be British.

            Da da da da da daaaaahhh
            da da da da da daaaaaaahhhh!
            What happens in General, stays in General.
            You know what they say about assumptions!

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              #76
              Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
              I for one am happy with the opportunities afforded to me my Maggie. I'm happy that I went to Uni, that I got a job in the city when I left, that I was able to afford to buy property, I told Sid when I saw him and bought those to, drunk in wine bars, had a briefcase, flash suit, low tax etc.

              I am one of Thatchers children and I'm proud to be British.

              Da da da da da daaaaahhh
              da da da da da daaaaaaahhhh!

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                #77
                Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
                Rumour also has it that Scargill asked the USSR and Colonel Gaddafi to fund the miners strike.

                probably not playing fair but hey so be it.

                may just be an urban myth that though
                Fuel to the fire

                How Scargill begged the Kremlin to fund miners' fight with Thatcher | Mail Online

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by original PM View Post
                  I assume that is tongue in cheek.....

                  On another note I was listening to Radio 2 and one guy was on about how he went to see some union leaders/shop stewards and asked them about their business plan....

                  He was laughed out of the room - it seems that the management of certain unionised industries had to try and market whatever the shop stewards deemed was going to be produced - regardless of whether it was marketable or not.

                  Almost seemed that the unions/shop stewards could not see the relationship between a productive workforce creating a marketable product and there fore creating a viable long term business plan which would go on to create longer term job security. They seemed to think that company existed to give them jobs.

                  Probably another side to that story too I suppose.
                  only the bit about call centres
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by MarillionFan View Post
                    I for one am happy with the opportunities afforded to me my Maggie. I'm happy that I went to Uni, that I got a job in the city when I left, that I was able to afford to buy property, I told Sid when I saw him and bought those to, drunk in wine bars, had a briefcase, flash suit, low tax etc.

                    I am one of Thatchers children and I'm proud to be British.

                    Da da da da da daaaaahhh
                    da da da da da daaaaaaahhhh!
                    And I am happy with 20% of whatever she enabled you to earn MF
                    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
                      And dont forget SASGURU

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrO9JmdzRQ
                      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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