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Why Thatcher is hated
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Why Thatcher is hated
Originally posted by mudskipper View PostDoes it have to be binary? Pro-Tory or Pro-Labour?
Surely you can criticise one philosophy without naturally being an uncritical supporter of its polar opposite?Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostThe problem with so many of you is that you do not know how to construct an argument. You do not know how to evidence a point. .
A couple of days ago I had you resorting to personal insults because you couldn't bring your thick noggin to grasp that it was Thatcher's liberalisation of the markets (which were left untouched by Labour) and her "greed is good" mantra that led to the financial collapse of 2008.
If you can't see or accept that, then you're too stupid and blinkered to discuss anything with.Hard Brexit now!
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Originally posted by sasguru View PostOh I missed this gem
A couple of days ago I had you resorting to honest, valid and incisive comments because you couldn't bring your thick noggin to grasp that it was Thatcher's liberalisation of the markets (which were left hopelessly managed by Labour) and her "greed is good" mantra that led to the enrichment of SASguru.
If you can't see or accept that, then you're too stupid and blinkered to discuss anything with.
hi loserLet us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostI'm certainly no leftie, but I found her modus operandi very cold. She wanted to replace heavy industry with high tech industry and the City. She wanted to remove the curse of the Unions. She wanted to get rid of social housing and sell off the utilities to private companies.
But how she went about achieving these aims was ruthless and unremitting.
I won't shed a tear at her funeral.
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We rid ourselves of the self-serving, meddling, myopic, unelected dictatorship of the Unions only for the Tories to embrace the EU!you have spent too much time being SAS guru's friend
Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Just out of interest did any of you grow up or recall these great 'communities' based around a single industry (coal, steel etc)
Do you really think these places were bastions of culture and art?
They were sink holes where once born into there was no way out due to the generally accepted violence and intimidation - often fueled by the Unions.
Oh and finally - really digging rocks out of the ground with bare hands? really in the 20th century - for fooks sake it was never going to last all Thatcher did was drag the country kicking and screaming into the 20th century.Comment
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On another note was listening to some geezer on Radio 2 yesterday and he was talking about the greed is good thing and actually Thacther got very upset with what happened.
She did promote self interest and she did try to get people to generate personal wealth however what she was not expecting was the complete selfishness that a lot of these people showed.
She was actually expecting these people to show some sort of restraint and community mindedness - apparently due to her methodist upbringing.
SO really what we need to stop doing is blaming Thacther for the actions of the greed fat fu<kers who got rich during her (and subsequent) governments.Comment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostJust out of interest did any of you grow up or recall these great 'communities' based around a single industry (coal, steel etc)
Do you really think these places were bastions of culture and art?
They were sink holes where once born into there was no way out due to the generally accepted violence and intimidation - often fueled by the Unions.
Oh and finally - really digging rocks out of the ground with bare hands? really in the 20th century - for fooks sake it was never going to last all Thatcher did was drag the country kicking and screaming into the 20th century.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostI worked in Calverton in Nottingham in 1978 -1980 and I knew most of the teachers at the local school. The children were great. Even though they were from mining families they were well educated and today they have blossoming careers in call centresComment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostOn another note was listening to some geezer on Radio 2 yesterday and he was talking about the greed is good thing and actually Thacther got very upset with what happened.
She did promote self interest and she did try to get people to generate personal wealth however what she was not expecting was the complete selfishness that a lot of these people showed.
She was actually expecting these people to show some sort of restraint and community mindedness - apparently due to her methodist upbringing.
SO really what we need to stop doing is blaming Thacther for the actions of the greed fat fu<kers who got rich during her (and subsequent) governments.
Margaret Thatcher: A cut above the rest | The Economist
What were those convictions? In Mrs Thatcher’s case, the quickest way to her political make-up was usually through her handbag. As she prepared to make her first leader’s speech to the Conservative Party conference in 1975, a speechwriter tried to gee her up by quoting Abraham Lincoln:
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
When he had finished, Mrs Thatcher fished into her handbag to extract a piece of ageing newsprint with the same lines on it. “It goes wherever I go,” she told him.Comment
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