How do you view the late Margaret Thatcher?

[ZARDOZ]

Yeah the Poll tax was smashing. All 18 year olds without a house should pay the council tax. Great start in life that, straight into debt before you even have any assets. So despised it sunk her for good.

[VectraMan]

Yeah the Poll tax was smashing. All 18 year olds without a house should pay the council tax. Great start in life that, straight into debt before you even have any assets. So despised it sunk her for good.

It's to pay for public services. Why does your use of bins, libraries, street lights etc. depend on whether you have a house or not? Much fairer system.

Having said that, I didn't actually pay mine.

[stek]

It's to pay for public services. Why does your use of bins, libraries, street lights etc. depend on whether you have a house or not? Much fairer system.

Having said that, I didn't actually pay mine.

All I remember is my rates were £115 quid in 1987 or so and now I pay £1937, water extra and no discernible difference in the services offered!

[vetran]

All I remember is my rates were £115 quid in 1987 or so and now I pay £1937, water extra and no discernible difference in the services offered!

You mean you missed the improvements in planning, old people's homes and road maintenance, they are so subtle you can hardly see them. Oh sorry they have gone!

[aussielong]

I also find it quite extraordinary that the one group of people that were "epitomised" by Thatcherism and were able to profit personally from a contracting industry enriched by the denationalisation of the power industry (1998 project anyone?), Big Bang, the computerisation of BA are such ungrateful whiners and hypocrites.

All this nonsense about manufacturing when it was the IT industry that grew phenomenally out of Thatcherism . All this "bulls**t hypocrisy about "poor people losing their jobs" is quite grotesque coming from a group of people making hundreds of thousands of pounds a year and enriching themselves to build IT systems that above all else remove the need to use people in jobs.

WHS

[lilelvis2000]

You mean you missed the improvements in planning, old people's homes and road maintenance, they are so subtle you can hardly see them. Oh sorry they have gone!

Where I am the council was going to sack all the lollypop ladies. They rarely mow the grassy area next to my house - I guess one of us house owners will have to do it now. And the street will only be cleaned once a year. All that for £1350 a year, including threatening letters when I'm late paying it my tax.

[VectraMan]

All I remember is my rates were £115 quid in 1987 or so and now I pay £1937, water extra and no discernible difference in the services offered!

So you've clearly moved upwards. And for that you can probably thank Mrs Thatch.

[Flashman]

Simply put if it wasn't for that Grocers daughter 90% of the people posting her wouldn't be contractors. You'd be doffing your cap to the Factory owner or kow towing to the Union Boss.

That may or may not be a good thing but it is simply true.

Think about that next time you raise a frikkin invoice and be grateful.

[swamp]

I also find it quite extraordinary that the one group of people that were "epitomised" by Thatcherism and were able to profit personally from a contracting industry enriched by the denationalisation of the power industry (1998 project anyone?), Big Bang, the computerisation of BA are such ungrateful whiners and hypocrites.

All this nonsense about manufacturing when it was the IT industry that grew phenomenally out of Thatcherism . All this "bulls**t hypocrisy about "poor people losing their jobs" is quite grotesque coming from a group of people making hundreds of thousands of pounds a year and enriching themselves to build IT systems that above all else remove the need to use people in jobs.

Can't argue with any of that.

[proggy]

Good Riddance

I think Morrisey sums her up to a tee.



The former Smiths singer said: "Thatcher is remembered as The Iron Lady only because she possessed completely negative traits such as persistent stubbornness and a determined refusal to listen to others.

"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the Ivory Trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own Cabinet booted her out."

Morrissey, whose first Smiths single Hand In Glove was released a month before Baroness Thatcher won her second term of office as Prime Minister in 1983, was highly critical of her role in the Falklands War.

He said: "She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone - and was sailing AWAY from the islands.

"When the young Argentinian boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs up sign for the British press. Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes.

"She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women's movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a Prime Minister could actually be female.

"But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.

Outspoken Morrissey, who recently cancelled a series of shows due to ill health, went on: "Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death.

"As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity," he added.