Are all telecoms companies irredeemably tulip?

[Mich the Tester]

hmm?

[Paddy]

hmm?

Yes

[Mich the Tester]

Yes

why?

[Ignis Fatuus]

hmm?

Yes. They are either former government monopolies, who usually haven't noticed that anything has changed; or get-rich-quick schemes often owned by a company whose original business is something else entirely.

[proggy]

hmm?

Compare your companies net profit with the average Telecom companies. If they are tulip what does that make you?

[Mich the Tester]

Compare your companies net profit with the average Telecom companies. If they are tulip what does that make you?

It makes me more interested in doing a decent job.

Look, life for a lot of people is not about 'look how much money we've made' (actually KPN aren't making much). People with a life and not just a bank account actually care about doing a decent job and feeling good about it; profit is the reward for doing so. If our wondrous market economy is failing to reward competence and diligence, then it's time our economic model is rebuilt.

[Ignis Fatuus]

It makes me more interested in doing a decent job.

Look, life for a lot of people is not about 'look how much money we've made' (actually KPN aren't making much). People with a life and not just a bank account actually care about doing a decent job and feeling good about it; profit is the reward for doing so. If our wondrous market economy is failing to reward competence and diligence, then it's time our economic model is rebuilt.

Bravo! Well said.

[craig1]

On the original question:

As a service company for consumers: Yep
As a service company for small and medium sized businesses: Yep
As a service company for large businesses: Yep
As an employer: Yep
As a B2B customer: Yep
As a contractor client: Yep

On the point above about KPN, I worked with them in 2000/1 on a contract in The Hague and they were a decent bunch. Probably the only telecoms contract I've enjoyed.

[Mich the Tester]

On the original question:

As a service company for consumers: Yep
As a service company for small and medium sized businesses: Yep
As a service company for large businesses: Yep
As an employer: Yep
As a B2B customer: Yep
As a contractor client: Yep

On the point above about KPN, I worked with them in 2000/1 on a contract in The Hague and they were a decent bunch. Probably the only telecoms contract I've enjoyed.

Oh, they have some nice people working there, it's just that the service to the customer is utterly abysmal. Now the evangelists of privatised services will tell us that we can all switch to another provider, but that's the trouble; the other providers are tulipe too. There is not one telecoms provider in this country with decent customer satisfaction ratings.

[proggy]

It makes me more interested in doing a decent job.

Look, life for a lot of people is not about 'look how much money we've made' (actually KPN aren't making much). People with a life and not just a bank account actually care about doing a decent job and feeling good about it; profit is the reward for doing so. If our wondrous market economy is failing to reward competence and diligence, then it's time our economic model is rebuilt.

Profit is indeed reward, so any company making a good profit is by definition doing a good job for it's customers.