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How to cause a run on the banks

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    #41
    Maybe, just maybe the banks in Cyprus have only themselves to blame. I mean, how did it come to this:

    Cyprus banking assets are about eight times the size of the economy, and foreign investors hold just under half of all deposits, which total around €70 billion.
    Quite possibly:

    alleging that much of the Russian money on the island is laundered, or is parked there so the oligarchs can avoid paying taxes on it. Around one-third of the money in Cypriot banks belongs to foreigners, led by Britons and Russians.
    Also don't forget that it still has to be agreed by the Cyprus parliament...
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #42
      Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
      Maybe, just maybe the banks in Cyprus have only themselves to blame. I mean, how did it come to this:


      Does that mean the account holders are to blame?
      And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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        #43
        Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
        Does that mean the account holders are to blame?
        Nope but they're taking the brunt sadly whereas it should be the banks, the banking regulators, the government, etc.

        A quick overview here

        As people have implied, that Cyprus is some sort of tax haven then surely this should come as no surprise either as the EU already has a form of savings taxation which may, or may not, have been ignored or just doesn't work...

        Also don't forget that the UK has a tax on savings and this must have brought into effect at some budget at some time or other, so its nothing new really
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #44
          I think this sort of collective punishment was known as Sippenhaft in the good old days.

          Strange how those old traditions re-surface from time to time.

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            #45
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            Also don't forget that the UK has a tax on savings and this must have brought into effect at some budget at some time or other, so its nothing new really
            It's not a tax on savings though, but a tax on the interest earned on savings.

            But yes, the same mechanism could probably be used to seize money from UK bank accounts. Let's just hope George Osbourne keeps quiet on it - the moment he gets up and categorically says he won't do it - that's the time to stick it under the matress.

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              #46
              Originally posted by centurian View Post
              It's not a tax on savings though, but a tax on the interest earned on savings.
              A distinction still lost on some.

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                #47
                Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                Maybe, just maybe the banks in Cyprus have only themselves to blame. I mean, how did it come to this:



                Quite possibly:



                Also don't forget that it still has to be agreed by the Cyprus parliament...
                Absolutely....

                It´s exactly the same problem that they had in Iceland, nothing to do with the Euro. Still because it´s in the Euro zone it´s a gr8 opportunity to "get angry" and "grandstand".

                A lot of account holders lost their deposits in Iceland, at least here they just lose a bit.

                There is no difference to losing money because the interest rate is below inflation than if it is taken off you in a tax it amounts to the same thing, your savings get taken off you to payback the debts.
                I'm alright Jack

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                  Absolutely....

                  It´s exactly the same problem that they had in Iceland, nothing to do with the Euro. Still because it´s in the Euro zone it´s a gr8 opportunity to "get angry" and "grandstand".

                  A lot of account holders lost their deposits in Iceland, at least here they just lose a bit.

                  There is no difference to losing money because the interest rate is below inflation than if it is taken off you in a "haircut" it amounts to the same thing, your savings get eroded.
                  You're not paying attention to the latest news are you? Cyprus can't find enough MPs to carry the vote so who knows what happens next.
                  merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    You're not paying attention to the latest news are you? Cyprus can't find enough MPs to carry the vote so who knows what happens next.
                    The choice is that depositers pay the tax and lose 10% or they lose most of it as they did in Iceland.

                    ...no brainer really

                    The debate going on in Cyprus is whether to reduce or eliminate the tax for small depositers and increase the tax for depositors with more than 100,000.
                    I'm alright Jack

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                      Which part of "financial crisis" did you not understand?
                      Which part of "irony" do you not understand?

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