I am an atheist.

[Project Monkey]

True. You have to work out your base assumptions and work up from there. My initial assumption is that the world is pretty much as I experience it. I work up from there by using experience and knowledge. It might not be a valid system but it has seemed to work for a few decades.

Thus far I have had my wife's existence proved to my satisfaction, I have never had a super natural, all powerful creature proved to my satisfaction since I was a child.

Neither have I, but through a numbers of testaments brought together in a certain book, I'm satisfied that Jesus Christ existed, consider his teaching to have been good and so I try to follow them. Therefore, I am a Christian. Does it matter whether or not a "super natural" power has been proved to my satisfaction?

[MyUserName]

Neither have I, but through a numbers of testaments brought together in a certain book, I'm satisfied that Jesus Christ existed, consider his teaching to have been good and so I try to follow them. Therefore, I am a Christian. Does it matter whether or not a "super natural" power has been proved to my satisfaction?

Well that depends on whether you believe he was a demi god?

If you believe in some of the nice bits of the bible and leave out the savage bits (like an eternity being tortured etc) then there is no real need to call yourself a Christian as plenty of non Christians have those values.

[d000hg]

Neither have I, but through a numbers of testaments brought together in a certain book, I'm satisfied that Jesus Christ existed, consider his teaching to have been good and so I try to follow them. Therefore, I am a Christian. Does it matter whether or not a "super natural" power has been proved to my satisfaction?

I wouldn't say believing Jesus existed as a real person and said good things makes you a Christian, any more than thinking Muhammed spoke some sense makes you a Muslim.

[Project Monkey]

No one is required to provide anything but if you want me to believe something that you claim then you are required to provide good reasoning and evidence. If I can simulate your reasoning and evidence by talking about something which we both know(!) is not real then you probably do not have good reasoning and evidence on your side.

Please be aware the arguments I gave for the Unicorn are ones which I have had used on me for real by various Christians.

Granted. I've also had those ridiculously simplistic assertion put to me.

[Project Monkey]

I wouldn't say believing Jesus existed as a real person and said good things makes you a Christian, any more than thinking Muhammed spoke some sense makes you a Muslim.

If I was to say "I believe in Jesus Christ" (which I do), does that make me a Christian?

[Platypus]

That's my point. One should not be required (by athiests or anyone else) to prove or provide evidence of their beliefs.

I agree. However: [not sure if this link will work]
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NO - I do not respect your religious beliefs.
I respect your right to have them. I respect your right to express them. I respect you so long as you respect me. I do not respect your “right” to tell me that I am an evil person. I do not respect your “right” to tell me that I am going to hell. I do not respect your “right” to impose your beliefs on me. I do not respect ignorance. I do not respect brainwashing. I do not respect cults. I do not respect hatred, bigotry, misogyny, sexism, or tyranny. I do not respect your religion and I don’t have to.

[Project Monkey]

I agree. However: [not sure if this link will work]
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Sorry, didn't realise I'd done any of that.

[Platypus]

Sorry, didn't realise I'd done any of that.

Didn't say YOU did.

I think you get my point.

[Project Monkey]

Didn't say YOU did.

I think you get my point.

I do indeed.

[d000hg]

If I was to say "I believe in Jesus Christ" (which I do), does that make me a Christian?

It depends on your definition of 'in'. I believe in CUK in the sense it exists. I believe Mohammed existed, etc.

My definition would be someone who believes Jesus was[/is] the son of God who offers salvation to those who accept this to be true, though there is no definitive answer... some say anyone who claims to be a Christian is one, others make pretty specific doctrinal demands, others demand baptimism or whatever.

But ultimately I'd say if you believe what Jesus said about himself, that's a pretty big indicator!