The NHS - time for a radical shake-up

[vetran]

Not bad questions for the only person on my ignore list, is the intelligent sockie owner in charge?

How exactly does UKIP intend to promote itself as a global trade partner? - Free itself from foreign governance.
Allow more ICTs? - why do we need them we have plenty of capable youngsters out of a job.
More people from the dynamic countries to set up REAL businesses here? yes.

[DodgyAgent]

there are only 3 possibilities:

1. UKIP tightens up
2. UKIP keeps things as they are.
3. UKIP liberalises further

It's not rocket science, I'm asking you UKIP supporters which they would do and how it helps the UK become a "global" trading nation.

I am sure they can sport a few Turbans and open up the ICT market as well as anyone.

[sasguru]

I am sure they can sport a few Turbans and open up the ICT market as well as anyone.

Your flippancy indicates to me that you haven't a clue. Am I right?

[DodgyAgent]

Your flippancy indicates to me that you haven't a clue. Am I right?

At last you are right about something

[sasguru]

At last you are right about something

And that is the fundamental problem with UKIP.
There's a contradiction between UKIP's insularity and being a success in a globalised world which requires more openness.
here's the 3 options:

1) Tighten up. The world basically says fook orf, we won't trade with you. Why should we jump through hoops when X, Y or Z is easier to trade with, educates out students and lets us visit without visas.
2) Keep things as they are - why vote UKIP then?
3) Liberalise further - Now that's not going to happen is it?

[DimPrawn]

And that is the fundamental problem with UKIP.
There's a contradiction between UKIP's insularity and being a success in a globalised world which requires more openness.

And what is our success exactly then?

Success in amassing crippling debts? Success in losing sovereignty? Success in massively increasing the UK population through completely indiscriminate immigration?

The current trajectory is towards total economic and social collapse. Anything that changes that path is a welcome change.

[sasguru]

And what is our success exactly then?

Success in amassing crippling debts? Success in losing sovereignty? Success in massively increasing the UK population through completely indiscriminate immigration?

The current trajectory is towards total economic and social collapse. Anything that changes that path is a welcome change.

Debts - occurred under Labour
Losing Sovereignty - not sure we have, apart from small things
Indiscrimate immigration - agree, happened under labour. However we do need high quality immigration, UKIP seem quiet on this.

[OwlHoot]

Interestingly I reckon the Tories have NHS reform on their radar.
The news being plastered all over the front pages is being carefully orchestrated.
But they can only do something if they win a second term, outright.

Oh I was about to correct that, until I realised that by "outright" you may indeed have meant "without the Lib Dem hangers on".

[Platypus]

Debts - occurred under Labour
Losing Sovereignty - not sure we have, apart from small things
Indiscrimate immigration - agree, happened under labour. However we do need high quality immigration, UKIP seem quiet on this.

Doesn't matter that these happened under Labour. The coalition isn't fixing them.

EDIT. Sorry for quoting

[sasguru]

Doesn't matter that these happened under Labour. The coalition isn't fixing them.

EDIT. Sorry for quoting

Can you really fix something in the time they had with a useless bunch hanging on their coat tails?