Thank you Kelvin

[moggy]

Sorry BP but the Tories would never have borrowed and spent in the way that Labour did - you have no evidence from which to to make such an assertion. Yes they would probably have fallen foul of the banking crisis but there is not a shred of evidence from their recent past (40 years) that they would be careless with money.

Labour fundamentally believe in giving money away, the recipients of which will always vote for them. The Tories fundamentally believe in individual freedom and personal responsibility.

The tories believe in giving money away too. Or they would never get in power. There are no real tories left.

[Robinho]

I for one am sick of subsidising their feckless ways and I would start by making Kelvin get a proper name and a proper job.

You're just sounding as idiotic as Kelvin now.

[doodab]

Sorry BP but the Tories would never have borrowed and spent in the way that Labour did - you have no evidence from which to to make such an assertion. Yes they would probably have fallen foul of the banking crisis but there is not a shred of evidence from their recent past (40 years) that they would be careless with money.

Labour fundamentally believe in giving money away, the recipients of which will always vote for them. The Tories fundamentally believe in individual freedom and personal responsibility.

Thatcher started giving money away in the form of tax cuts which were paid for by selling the national infrastructure down the river. Labour kept up the trend cos it was the only way they could get elected.

The only difference is who they bribe.

Ironically I think that a tory government might have been less willing to let the city run amok. That would have been a good thing.

[Robinho]

Thatcher started giving money away in the form of tax cuts which were paid for by selling the national infrastructure down the river. Labour kept up the trend cos it was the only way they could get elected.

Ironically I think that a tory government might have been less willing to let the city run amok. That would have been a good thing.

Tax cuts aren't giving money away, they're not stealing money in the first place. And they weren't primary funded by selling infrastructure. Labour kept up the trend because market control and government ownership had been proven to be complete folly.

[ZARDOZ]

We are actually subsidising the largesse of the previous government that you Northern people voted for.

That's not really true is it?

Tax cuts aren't giving money away, they're not stealing money in the first place. And they weren't primary funded by selling infrastructure.

The only other ways to fund them are borrowing, raising new taxes, or cutting spending. Clue: It wasn't cutting spending.

[DodgyAgent]

That's not really true is it?

It is mainly the north and scotland that vote labour

[pjclarke]

Ah yes, the South East, home of the millionaire ....

Enjoy. Personally, casual racism notwithstanding, I'd be amazed if a Sun Editor really knows the GDP of Ethiopa

[LatteLiberal]

It is mainly the north and scotland that vote labour

Before too long Scotland will have separated itself from the UK, so Kelvin's recommendation will be partially fulfilled.

[Robinho]

The only other ways to fund them are borrowing, raising new taxes, or cutting spending. Clue: It wasn't cutting spending.

A lower tax rate does not necessarily mean lower tax revenues. Spending as a % of GDP fell under thatcher, whilst total revenues climbed.

[Ignis Fatuus]

I remember seeing Mackenzie on Question Time a few years ago, when he did another such attack, particularly on Scotland that time. In my prejudice I thought he might get some support from the Cheltnham audience, being as how they would seem to be the good guys in his mythology.

Far from it. The good people of Cheltenham booed him roundly. They didn't just murmur dissent, they booed, and they did it without hesitation. They knew a lot of evil codswallop when they heard it. All credit to them.

I know a lot of evil codswallop when I hear it too. And so should you.

Mackenzie is like O'Leary but much less entertaining: when you're selling crap, no publicity is bad publicity. Mackenzie is selling a stupid divisive dishonest pack of lies, it's his stock in trade. Shame on you for buying it and for trying to help him sell it.