Di Matteo Sacked

[darmstadt]

The problem is the owner expects too much and can afford to pay people off and sack them if he isnt getting what he wants

Basically he's a ****wit who thinks he can buy the trophies. Maybe if he invested the money at a lower level it might pay dividends in the long run but no, no, no. Personally I think every manager who is currently not in a contract should apply and get a huge ****-off payout clause written into their contract. You might not win anything but you sure ain't going away empty handed. Stupid piece of tulip

[Old Hack]

Basically he's a ****wit who thinks he can buy the trophies. Maybe if he invested the money at a lower level it might pay dividends in the long run but no, no, no. Personally I think every manager who is currently not in a contract should apply and get a huge ****-off payout clause written into their contract. You might not win anything but you sure ain't going away empty handed. Stupid piece of tulip

Without wanting to piss on your parade; Chelsea had won nothing before him of note, maybe a cup here or there. They've now been to a few semis and finals of the CL and won it, won the FA Cup a couple of times, and the PL. In all fairness, you can say he has actually bought success.

Blackburn did it early PL doors. But the owner wisely didnt keep on doing it.

EDIT:

I read once, a while ago, that RA wanted to buy United, as he wanted a team that played that style, but couldn't justify the billion odd it would have cost, so bought Chelsea and is trying to build a team like them; I think for him, winning isn't enough, he wants to see the beautiful game at its finest, and RDM isn't providing it.

[darmstadt]

Without wanting to piss on your parade; Chelsea had won nothing before him of note, maybe a cup here or there. They've now been to a few semis and finals of the CL and won it, won the FA Cup a couple of times, and the PL. In all fairness, you can say he has actually bought success.

But at a cost. Its just a millionaires plaything now (which ManCity is turning into) and he's acting like a baby by throwing his toys out of the pram if it doesn't go his way. They did win the 2nd Division in 1988-89 though

What he should have done is bought this Peruvian team and then at least it would bring a laugh:

[Old Hack]

But at a cost. Its just a millionaires plaything now (which ManCity is turning into) and he's acting like a baby by throwing his toys out of the pram if it doesn't go his way. They did win the 2nd Division in 1988-89 though

What he should have done is bought this Peruvian team and then at least it would bring a laugh:

In all fairness, it's either a business, or a plaything now.

It would be good if we followed Barca i.e. the fans owned the club, rather than rich people or businesses. Trouble is, without them, a lot of clubs would struggle. If you look and Man Utd, if they failed to finish top four for 4 seasons, they'd be financially ruined, so they have to. It's not the sam for City and Chelsea (nor Leeds), for any losses, they do an equity swap for it!

[FiveTimes]

Basically he's a ****wit who thinks he can buy the trophies. Maybe if he invested the money at a lower level it might pay dividends in the long run but no, no, no. Personally I think every manager who is currently not in a contract should apply and get a huge ****-off payout clause written into their contract. You might not win anything but you sure ain't going away empty handed. Stupid piece of tulip

Since RA took over at Chelsea they have won more trophies than Utd 10-9

So he must think that he is doing something right

[minestrone]

Since RA took over at Chelsea they have won more trophies than Utd 10-9

So he must think that he is doing something right

Would be interesting to see the financial incomings and outgoings on the team under that period.

[FiveTimes]

Would be interesting to see the financial incomings and outgoings on the team under that period.

It certainly would, I think Man U spent more on debt repayment than Chelsea did on manager pay offs

[minestrone]

The quicker we get financial fair play into the system the better.

I quick google shows that collectively the EPL clubs are 2.4 billion in debt.

Burnley can outbid Celtic for managers so who is kidding who here.

[darmstadt]

Would be interesting to see the financial incomings and outgoings on the team under that period.

Probably a lot:

So. £69m spent on managers. £50m Torres. God knows how much else. Why didn't Abramovich just ******* buy Man Utd and have done with it?

[darmstadt]

In all fairness, it's either a business, or a plaything now.

It would be good if we followed Barca i.e. the fans owned the club, rather than rich people or businesses. Trouble is, without them, a lot of clubs would struggle. If you look and Man Utd, if they failed to finish top four for 4 seasons, they'd be financially ruined, so they have to. It's not the sam for City and Chelsea (nor Leeds), for any losses, they do an equity swap for it!

Or what is closely becoming a very successful league, the Bundesliga:

In comparison to the liberal rules of the EPL, the regulations of the DFL (German Football League) are rather restrictive. So far, Article 8(2) of the statutes of the DFL expresses the 50+1 ownership rule and prevents German clubs from being taken over by potential investors (http://www.bundesliga.de/media/nativ...-30_stand_.pdf).

German football clubs are organised as eingetragener Verein (e.V.) and the corporate structure of an e.V. is similar to that of an English non-profit organisation (NPO). The members of a club act as the "board" of the club, voting on major decisions and hiring key executives. Nonetheless, in 1999, the DFL acknowledged the growing importance of economics in football and allowed the clubs to spin off parts of it and to turn them into separate corporations. Many clubs made use of this new opportunity by spinning off their men's football team. However, the outsourcing of a part of the club has one major restriction: According to the 50+1 ownership rule, the club members must retain a majority stake in the club. So investors are not allowed to own over 49% of any club. The 50+1 ownership rule was designed to provide considerable investment opportunities while preventing investors from having overall control of the direction of the club.


Exceptions to the 50+1 ownership rule:

However, majority holdings are allowed in some circumstances after long affiliations. Vfl Wolfsburg is owned 100% by Volkswagen and Bayer Leverkusen 100% by Bayer. 1899 Hoffenheim and its major shareholder Dietmar Hopp are another quasi-exception to the 50+1 ownership rule. While he is not technically in control of the majority of the shares, he invested millions to take the team from the eighth division to the Bundesliga in less than ten years. His generous investment ensured him a de facto influence which can be compared to that of an owner of a club.

German football grounds of all leagues are currently seeing an influx of British football fans due to the relatively low cost of entrance, you can stand, you can drink beer and you can smoke. There is a Dortmund fan club in Dover who go to most of the home games as its cheaper than going to a Premier League game, including transport! In fact when you buy a ticket for a game here it also includes all public transport in the area for a few hours before the game and until the last bus/train/tram/underground runs, not bad...